TowerDefence - who's the FileCabi.net champ?

[MightyTiny]

Quite possibly the most addictive online waste of time I've played. :xyxthumbs:

http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/

Pretty easy to get the hang of, the quickstart guide tells you what you need to know, and you can look at the mazes other players have built to give you ideas of what works.

Play on "medium" difficulty, submit your score, and add it to a group I started named "FileCabi.net" - let's see who's the champ here. :D

The score to beat at the moment is 6703, that I just got. :cool:

(A tip - pressing "n" during the game will send in the next wave of critters, and you get extra points for doing that, rather than waiting for the waves to come on their own.)

[Vanguard]

considerin i played for like 5 minutes an only got about 200 pnts, ya, ya waisted alot of time :xyxthumbs:

[MightyTiny]

considerin i played for like 5 minutes an only got about 200 pnts, ya, ya waisted alot of time :xyxthumbs:

Wow. :rasta:

Looks like you need a few tips - click on the "player mazes" link on the page to see examples of how others have constructed their mazes, and how many points they've scored with each setup.

I think my first try at the game was something like 2000 points, and then I looked at what higher scoring mazes looked like and immediately improved several thousand points.

[MontysDouble]

Oh, crap. Now I'm hooked.

You utter bastard MightyTiny... :) Thanks mate. :drinkup:

[MightyTiny]

Sorry. :( And you're quite wellcome! :D

A tip to imporove - smaller numer of (non pellet) towers, upgraded further. Make the maze so that you get maximum benefit from your few fully upgraded towers; make the maze circle the "killzone", so that the critters end up passing within the range of your best guns more than once. :xyxthumbs:

[Heero Valentine]

oh fuck no, i'm not going to play that again....
last time i got addicted to this i've spent like 3 hours a day playing this...

-edit- man only 3038, to low to submit :P -edit-

[MontysDouble]

Crap. I can only get in the low 2000s. I keep on stuffing up my mazes.

[Heero Valentine]

Crap. I can only get in the low 2000s. I keep on stuffing up my mazes.

:D i still had one of my old designs lying around on the comp, i've improved it a bit just got a 3472 :)

[MightyTiny]

Crap. I can only get in the low 2000s. I keep on stuffing up my mazes.

The mistake you are making is that you concentrate on building a large maze with many squirt towers (and other towers), instead of concentrating on upgrading your existing squirt and other towers.

A single fully upgraded squirt tower, positioned so that it can reach the critters for a long time, will do you MUCH more good than a dozen squirt towers upgraded only a little.

I'll take a few examples of low scoring mazes making this mistake:

2861 points:
http://i13.tinypic.com/68bcj7n.gif

and

1929 points:
http://i14.tinypic.com/6c5eddd.gif

Now compare this to high scoring mazes:

6904 points:
http://i9.tinypic.com/62z6e4l.gif

and

6703 points:
http://i7.tinypic.com/5z39id5.gif

Notice what's common to these - a centralized killzone with a half a dozen, or a few more fully upgraded towers doing most of the damage, and a maze that circles around that killzone, so that the critters stay in range of this killzone as long as possible... often a good idea is to have a few freeze towers around the killzone to slow down the critters in the places where they come under heaviest fire.

In that last maze in there, I first constructed the pellet towers to the top left and the left size, near where the critters come in, and initially that first freeze tower was a pellet tower too - I then built the five squirt towers in row, and upgraded all of them a couple of times... I then built one of the air-defense towers in the middle. After that, I replaced the pelet tower at the start of that "killing zone" with a freeze tower, gave it one upgrade, continued upgrading the pellet towers, but not equally - I concentrated on the uppermost and the lowermost squirt towers, fully upgrading them before buying upgrades for the rest. I bought the second air defense tower, and the second freeze tower pretty early on, but the the last two squirt towers, and the last freeze tower I bought and upgraded only in the late game.

If you do this sort of thing, prioritizing upgrades of well placed towers rather than buying more towers, you'll find your scores improving greatly.

[Jegar]

6023 was my best once, but no screen *crys*

[Raidenator]

4959 on my first try.

[MightyTiny]

4959 on my first try.

That's awsome for the fist go. :xyxthumbs:

But next time, submit the score, and add it to a group titled "FileCabi.net" to claim your place on the scoreboard. :cool:

[Raidenator]

That's awsome for the fist go. :xyxthumbs:

But next time, submit the score, and add it to a group titled "FileCabi.net" to claim your place on the scoreboard. :cool:

My bad, I didn't bother reading the whole post before I started the game. I'll get on it another day.

[Heero Valentine]

Ha! take that u little bastards http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/GroupScoreboard.asp

i'm champion for now :1orglaugh: muhahaha

[MightyTiny]

Ha! take that u little bastards http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/GroupScoreboard.asp

i'm champion for now :1orglaugh: muhahaha

Getting tantalizingly close to topping that, but not quite there yet... :)

[MightyTiny]

I'm back at the top! :banana_sml:

6813 points. :)

[asdf]

http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/1946822.gif


3402 :o , I thought it would do better.

[MightyTiny]

http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/1946822.gif


3402 :o , I thought it would do better.

Considering what you did do, that's not bad. :)

Upgrading pellet towers isn't worth it - it wastes money that could be spent on more powerful towers. Second, upgrading many towers only part of the way is MUCH less effective than upgrading a few towers all the way - as many upgrades as are allowed.

If you look at the FileCabi.Net scoreboard, and click on my name, you can see the various constructs I've used in my best scoring games... also, if you click "player mazes" you can see the mazes used by others... that's a good source of ideas too. :xyxthumbs:

[asdf]

http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/1947103.gif


Even worse...:rolleyes: 2821

Maybe I had too many squirt towers.

The flyers were killing me.

[MightyTiny]

Yes, most definitely too many squirt towers - and the same problem as before, you use many towers with few upgrades, rather than few towers with many upgrades.

Here are a few designs among my best scoring mazes - note how they work - they have a centralized "killing zone" which ranges over much of the maze, and the critters are marched within that killing zone to take as long a route as possible. In that killing zone, there are few specialized towers that I've fully upgraded:

6813 points:
http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/1870659.gif

6703 points:
http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/1769290.gif

and

6306 points:
http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/1768692.gif

One fully upgraded Squirt tower is probably worth 3 or four ALMOST fully upgraded squirt towers, because with the last upgrade, the power greatly increases, and not only that, the RANGE of the tower also increases.

Oh, and when you improve on your old scores, submit your score at the end by giving your name, and then the name of the group you want to add the score to: "FileCabi.Net"

[asdf]

Well, this one did quite a bit better. 5087.

http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/1947409.gif

[MightyTiny]

Looks much better too! :xyxthumbs:

[asdf]

http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/1947939.gif

This one didn't do quite as well for some reason. Every life lost was from a flyer. :o 4853

[MightyTiny]

I think that one suffered a bit from the spaced-out kill zone... I've found it more effective to have your big guns lumped at the center, in a way that ensures that once they are fully upgraded, they reach two rows to at least two directions - to maximize the time the critters must stay in range.

One centralized swarm tower that you keep upgrading after each wave of flyers, works pretty well to eliminate most if not all flyers... though if you want to get the two flying bosses in late game, you need at least two centralized, fully upgraded swarm towers... that's what I've found in practice. I'm not sure whether it's worth it to bother with those two.

[asdf]

http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/1948253.gif

I'm getting addicted. :arcadefreak: 5317.

[MightyTiny]

Yup. The game does have that effect. :1orglaugh:

[asdf]

http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/1954372.gif

This killed everything but still not getting into the 6,000's. 5862.

[MightyTiny]

http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/1954372.gif

This killed everything but still not getting into the 6,000's. 5862.

Did you notice my tip in the first post of this thread?

Pressing "n" during the game will send the next wave of critters in right away, and doing this will give you extra points, depending on how much in advance you send the waves in.

[Bokito]

Haha nice game, i am hooked and play this game in stead of my ps3 :o:D

[Heero Valentine]

and the new champion with a huge score of 6922 is...Heero Valentine!!
*screaming and clapping on the background*

[MightyTiny]

Damn you HV! :1orglaugh: Now I've got to keep playing.... :arcadefreak:

[Heero Valentine]

Damn you HV! :1orglaugh: Now I've got to keep playing.... :arcadefreak:

:1orglaugh: took me like a day or 2...we need a social life lol

[AllisterFiend]

Try it on hard

[Heero Valentine]

Try it on hard

:1orglaugh: don't worry, as soon as i'll give it a try i'll be number 1 their too

[MightyTiny]

Took the #1 position on Hard: 5562 points. :D

Hard is actually considerably more difficult than normal. :arcadefreak:

[Dosage]

This is the crack of free computer games. Thank you, Tiny. I am now hopelessly addicted.

[Dosage]

Try using diagonal corridors as much as possible. It causes the "germs" or whatever the hell they are to have to stop and turn every few seconds. Really slows them down. I've also been using a swarm tower at each exit. Helps keep those fucking flyers from escaping, since they always follow the spawn ones which take longer to kill (have to kill them twice), drawing the fire of your squirters away from the flyers.

[MightyTiny]

You're quite wellcome Dosage. :D

As for the flyers, one or two swarm towers are good to have - placed at the center of the screen.

[Heero Valentine]

omg u have to kill the spawns three times in hard? so unfare....

[Bokito]

got 6966 in normal :) but hard is a pain :eek7:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1996/6966normallz1.gif

[MightyTiny]

Great job. And an elegant maze too! :xyxthumbs:

But I don't see you on the scoreboard - did you forget to submit your result? :(

The group name is, as mentioned a few times earlier "FileCabi.net"

[Bokito]

ow ok, i did submit it on my initials, cff, as i am used to. In the eighties, arcade machines didnt allow more than 3 letters as a name on the high score. And nowadays i'm too lazy to do more than 3 letters. So it never changed :1bluewinky: But i will change it in Bokito and use the group name in further tries.

[MightyTiny]

ow ok, i did submit it on my initials, cff, as i am used to. In the eighties, arcade machines didnt allow more than 3 letters as a name on the high score. And nowadays i'm too lazy to do more than 3 letters. So it never changed :1bluewinky:

After the game is finished, it first asks you whether you want to submit it and under what name - after you sumbit your score, it gives you the option of attaching your score to a group scoreboard... on that page, enter FileCabi.net, and your score will be on the FileCabi.net scoreboard.:xyxthumbs:

You can click the "Group scores" link and enter FileCabi.net to see the current standings. Don't know of any way of attaching a submitted score to a scoreboard later, if you miss that opportunity, so it looks like you'll just have to kick our butts again to claim that #1 spot. :arcadefreak:

[Dosage]

You're quite wellcome Dosage. :D

As for the flyers, one or two swarm towers are good to have - placed at the center of the screen.
Yeah, I just figured that out today. Helped to break 6000. I realized on the first game I played after work that if a swarm tower is at the exit, it can only shoot at them half as long.

[Dosage]

Anyone else ever had your towers totally ignore a creep, let it leave the maze completely and wander across the rest of the board, scoring a life against you? This just happened with one of the last spawns from the boss spawn. Pissed me off.

[asdf]

Anyone else ever had your towers totally ignore a creep, let it leave the maze completely and wander across the rest of the board, scoring a life against you? This just happened with one of the last spawns from the boss spawn. Pissed me off.

Yep, many times.

[MightyTiny]

I believe that's a known bug. The site has a mention that a new version update is coming out soon, so hopefully they'll manage to fix that.

There's been some shifts in the leaderboard for Normal difficulty Bokito has claimed his place at the top, which I discovered right after I'd beaten Heero Valentine's top score and thought I was going to be at the top. :arcadefreak:

Here's the top 3 scores to beat now:

1. Bokito 7057
2. MightyTiny 7019
3. Heero Valentine 6922

[Heero Valentine]

omg really? u lil fuckers i'll get back my place

[Bokito]

Bad idea to have high score, now i get asskicked

[MightyTiny]

Damn! Now the top two are past 7100... :arcadefreak:

[Bokito]

I dont think i get any higher than 7100 unless i change my strategy. If i go faster now, the result is loss of life. I see on the net they do it by back and forth the creepies, but i dont think i like that much. Too much work on a touchpad because i dont have a mouse. So I pass that. I see Heero is catching up and his latest score is just 8 points behind. That means he was only 3 sec slower on a 20 minutes game. Thats ridiculous.

[MightyTiny]

I dont think i get any higher than 7100 unless i change my strategy. If i go faster now, the result is loss of life. I see on the net they do it by back and forth the creepies, but i dont think i like that much.

Yup, that's called "juggling" I believe. To me it somehow feels too much like cheating.

I suspect we are approaching the max scores achievable without juggling.

[donsfiraga]

ow ok, i did submit it on my initials, cff, as i am used to. In the eighties, arcade machines didnt allow more than 3 letters as a name on the high score. And nowadays i'm too lazy to do more than 3 letters. So it never changed :1bluewinky: But i will change it in Bokito and use the group name in further tries.

and those three letters are the initials of your name.example: Jose Luis Caballero, so JLC is how it would appear on the arcade machine, but in my case i only have two names(first & last) so for me it would be a space then first name initial and last name initial or however you want to do it

[Dosage]

I just had one of the bastard flying bosses escape with 21 points left. That's 21 out of over 20,000!! Bastard. By the way, when the hell is someone going to make a handheld version of this game? I've been spending WAY too much time in this chair. I need some fresh air. Or maybe a laptop. Yeeaahhh.....

[Dosage]

First try on Hard and I got 5830! I'm coming for first place, Tiny. You know, tomorrow. Hey, I gotta sleep sometime.

[Dosage]

I JUST SCORED 7689!!!!!!!...........................in the fun mode where you start out with 10,000 gold. It's really fun if you haven't tried it. You can fully upgrade your towers before you even start, no waiting. Just hit U with the tower highlighted five times before you send the first wave and BOOM, instant awesomeness.

[Dosage]

Alright, 8036 in fun mode, and I'm going to bed for real this time.

[Heero Valentine]

bokito, i'll beat you.
but just like you i need to change my strategy to win.
i think i already have a new strategy :)

-edit- lmao look at my new score 7148, exact the same score as bokito -edit-

[Bokito]

The fun is mode is quite fun indeed. Too bad there isnt a score list for it.

[Dosage]

Just took the top spot in hard mode! I knew all this time I could have spent making money would pay off eventually.

[MightyTiny]

Stop kicking my ass people! :1orglaugh:

I'm going away for a few days, and by the time I get back, I bet you'll be up to 9999999999 points in both normal and hard. And I'll be ranked 227th, forced to spend the rest of my life trying to climb back to the top. :arcadefreak:

[Heero Valentine]

:p don't introduce a game if u can't take the beating

[asdf]

New version is out.

[Alibis]

yeah, the new version's got a few goodies. unfortunately, i haven't found a good use for the ink tower yet.

[MightyTiny]

Yeah, the ink tower seems a bit useless. Bash towers are a lot more powerful now though. :xyxthumbs: But they're expensive.

[Heero Valentine]

havent played yet :( should check it out...

[Bokito]

haha, now i can start all over again. I was used to the old one.

[Heero Valentine]

probaly aint gonna play it anymore...this version sucks balls :p
i like the previous version more.

[MightyTiny]

probaly aint gonna play it anymore...this version sucks balls :p
i like the previous version more.

I think the new version is a bit more difficult. :arcadefreak:

The new critters, those slow moving dark ones that can take a lot of damage really mix it up, especially when they are followed by the fast movers. If you let them reach your killzone at the same time, your guns will focus on the slow movers, and the fast movers may just slip by. Haven't been able to break 7000 on normal difficulty in the new version.

Still, I do like the new version. Bash towers are actually useful now, even with their high cost. :xyxthumbs:

[MightyTiny]

Just noticed that they've just changed the order of critters in the new 1.5 version of the game, so that the fast critters now come BEFORE the slow dark critters - this makes it easier, removing the difficulty I described in the post above. :xyxthumbs:

Just took the #1 spot in the 1.5 version FileCabi.net scoreboard with 6814 points, normal difficulty. :D

[Heero Valentine]

:arcadefreak: must inprove score...

[Dosage]

Sucks that the boost towers are only in the hard version. I made a maze that consisted of six squirts in a ring with a boost in the middle, with pellets swirling around them, but I can't develop them fast enough in hard mode. The fucking dark ones are impervious to any level one towers, so you need to have several squirts at level three at least, or they run right through.

[Heero Valentine]

:p i just opened a can of whoop-ass cause i took the first place

[MightyTiny]

:p i just opened a can of whoop-ass cause i took the first place

And with just a 14 point difference too... back to the drawing board... :arcadefreak:

[MightyTiny]

Sucks that the boost towers are only in the hard version. I made a maze that consisted of six squirts in a ring with a boost in the middle, with pellets swirling around them, but I can't develop them fast enough in hard mode. The fucking dark ones are impervious to any level one towers, so you need to have several squirts at level three at least, or they run right through.

The boost towers are also to be found in some of the challenge and fun modes.

But hard is indeed a lot harder than it used to be. :1zhelp:

BTW, excellent signature. One of my favourite quotes. :xyxthumbs:

[Heero Valentine]

Lmao, check my scores rise and rise

[MightyTiny]

They're having problems right now it seems. Visiting the site just gives me this helpful message:

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[Haseknumber39]

BTW i put my name as Bevis

[S14DGENER8]

I only got 1159

[MightyTiny]

I only got 1159

Low scores are usually due to a few common mistakes (too many towers, too little upgrading). Check out the first two pages of this thread - I posted some tips and example mazes there. Learn from those and you'll soon be aiming for the top scores. :xyxthumbs:

[twicon]

http://www.addictinggames.com/vrdefendery3k.html <<<tahts cooler

[MightyTiny]

http://www.addictinggames.com/vrdefendery3k.html <<<tahts cooler

I don't think so - tried it out, and it's a bit simplistic. It lacks the depth and possibilities that TowerDefence has - the game seems like a version of tower defense where you don't build your own course for the critters to go through.

There's also another game with the essentially the same concept as VR Defender Y3k, callled Onslaught2 ( http://www.kongregate.com/games/gaby/onslaught2 ) and I think that it too is a bit more interesting, because it allows you to form combination attacks by building two different defesive towers side to side, and then maxing them both damagewise - that makes the two towers have a combined effect that is different from the towers individually. Also, in that game allows you to upgrade specific properties in each tower, rather than the whole tower (each tower has range, rate of fire, and damage, which each can be upgraded separately)

Onslaught2 also has a map editor that you can use to try out your own map designs.

Still, TowerDefense rules because of it's staying power. You exhaust the possibilities of games like Onslaught2 and VR Defender Y3k pretty quickly, wheras in TowerDefense, there's always opportunity to invent new tactics by changing your maze design. :xyxthumbs:

Thanks for the link though - Defender Y3k isn't a bad game at all!

[Haseknumber39]

only got 5314

and that was on the fun mode or w/e it is

[MightyTiny]

WOOHOO!

Got to playing TowerDefense again after a little break, and just took the #1 spot on the FileCabi.net scoreboard. :banana_sml:

7250 points is the mark to beat now. :cool:

[MightyTiny]

Took the #1 spot at hard difficulty too. :cool:

New top score for hard: 6824.

I thus declare myself the king, overlord and demi-god of the TowerDefense FileCabi.net scoreboard. :D

Anyone up to knocking me off my throne? :arcadefreak:

[Heero Valentine]

tower defence seems to not work anymore on my pc, my dads and his laptop.
that's why i stopped playing it.
i'll check tommorow if it works, if so...be afraid, be very afraid.

-edit- it seems to work again, see that there are some new towers first some experimenting to do with my old maze with building in these new ones. or just use the 3k fixed thingy to look -edit-

[MightyTiny]

tower defence seems to not work anymore on my pc, my dads and his laptop.
that's why i stopped playing it.
i'll check tommorow if it works, if so...be afraid, be very afraid.

-edit- it seems to work again, see that there are some new towers first some experimenting to do with my old maze with building in these new ones. or just use the 3k fixed thingy to look -edit-

Just so that it won't be too easy for you, I just improved my score a tad... It's now 7272 you've got to beat. :D

[Heero Valentine]

-_- going to the beach all day long...
no worry's i'll de-throne u soon xD

[tech-guy]

Just got 4486, looks like mighty tiny is the king of this game!

[MightyTiny]

Just got 4486, looks like mighty tiny is the king of this game!

I'll happily hold on to that title, but don't give up yet! :D

Look through the first few pages of this thread for gameplay tips that'll get your scores closer to the top.

[tech-guy]

5345 coming for ya!

[amaizenblue]

killer game. Reminds me of Lemmings. Those flyers kill me. I think all 17 lives I lost were birds. 52nd place for my first "official" game. Had a couple practice ones first.

[MightyTiny]

killer game. Reminds me of Lemmings. Those flyers kill me. I think all 17 lives I lost were birds. 52nd place for my first "official" game. Had a couple practice ones first.

I recommend building one swarm tower as close to the middle of the screen as you can, preferably right on the cross that denotes the center. Then just keep upgrading that tower regularly, between the flyer swarms. By the time the boss-flyers come near the end, that tower should be fully upgraded.

[amaizenblue]

I'm gonna crack 7000 if it kills me. ;) 6556 and no lives lost on the last one...

I think I have the hang of knowing when to upgrade each tower. Gotta prioritize. ;)

[MightyTiny]

I'm currently trying my luck at "the 100" challenge mode - playing it from the Kongregate site ( http://www.kongregate.com/games/preecep/desktop-tower-defense-1-5 ), they've got a challenge there where you've got to score 12 thousand points in "the 100" mode. The challenge difficulty level is rated at "Impossible". :arcadefreak:

And DAMN it's hard! :eek:

[amaizenblue]

Have you played this on a laptop touchpad? Is it easier with a mouse?

[MightyTiny]

Have you played this on a laptop touchpad? Is it easier with a mouse?

Haven't tried it on a laptop - I'd imagine that it'd be easier using a mouse, though that, I guess, depends on how nimble you are at using the touchpad. :arcadefreak:

[amaizenblue]

Yeah, I suppose it wouldn't be any easier for me, since I'm used to a touchpad. I'd have to get accustomed to the mouse.

[tech-guy]

I hate this game!!!!



1 more go grrrr

[MightyTiny]

I hate this game!!!!



1 more go grrrr

:1orglaugh:

And just one more after that... :arcadefreak:

[Borro]

Seriously Mighty, I should cut your heart out with a rusty spoon for this.

[amaizenblue]

Seriously Mighty, I should cut your heart out with a rusty spoon for this.

Yeah, no shit. I'm OH SO CLOSE to knocking Tiny off his perch, but one small little error gets me every time.

And you know what? Even if I do get it, I'll probably STILL keep playing.:mad2: :1orglaugh: :mad2: :1orglaugh:

[Borro]

Just let it go....if you beat him he will play until he beats u. It's a vicious circle without a jerk.

[MightyTiny]

:1orglaugh:

Spreading the addiction....:arcadefreak:

:1zhelp:

[footballbat]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[amaizenblue]

How the fuck does somebody score over 8K with a maze like this:

http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/2830306.gif

:confused: :confused: :confused:

I figure he is changing the openings for the critters to go back and forth through the maze, but how the fuck does he get the flying critters?

The guy consistently scores 8K+ using mazes that look like this one.

[MightyTiny]

How the fuck does somebody score over 8K with a maze like this:

http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Maps/2830306.gif

:confused: :confused: :confused:

I figure he is changing the openings for the critters to go back and forth through the maze, but how the fuck does he get the flying critters?

The guy consistently scores 8K+ using mazes that look like this one.

The guy definitely uses juggling - selling towers and reconstructing them to change the route the critters have to take through the maze to make them go back and forth.

I don't use juggling, because it just feels too much like cheating to me.

As for the flyers, all I can think of is that the guy DOES have a fully upgraded swarm tower during the game, but sells it and replaces it with a pellet tower after the last round of flyers... perhaps to confuse people who might want to copy his tactics.

I myself always sell my swarm tower after the flying bosses at the end, after which no further flyers are forthcoming, and replace it with some other tower (usually a bash tower). This to gain money to quickly upgrade other towers for the end.

[amaizenblue]

I don't see juggling as cheating. It would still be hard as hell. Once you get so many critters inside the maze, there are going to be some close to both points of juggling. I've used it on occasion, usually when the a couple critters from the second to last boss get past most of my defenses. Then I have to have them go back and forth a couple times so my last line of squirt towers can get them.

[amaizenblue]

But respecting your opinion, I haven't crushed your high score using the tactic. :D :D

[stardog]

Boo Ya !
now to work on the hard level...

[MightyTiny]

Dammit! And a hundred point difference too... :arcadefreak:

[loadrunner]

lolz