Make me believe in God.

[asdf]

I'm listening.

[Afronaught]

ok so there was this 9 year old kid who happend to see his mom lying on her bed naked masturbaiting screaming "Oh God, Give me a man!".

Lo and behold a few days later Little timmy had a new step daddy...

So there... Case Proven :D

Side note....

Little Timmy was discoverd 3 days later by his mom, Lying on his bed naked masturbating sceaming "Oh God, Give Me a Bike!".... I dont know if his prayer was answered tho...

[raize te gaff]

Why? Theres loads of religions popping up everywhere (jedi is a new one:1orglaugh:) so whats to say that ours is real.

[Afronaught]

http://www.geocities.com/surmon/popesiduis1.gif

[Josh85]

If you believe in god and be christian and stuff then you will go to heaven when you die which is a good place full of sunshine rivers and rainbow gumdrop smiles where fairy princesses and happy la la gnomes dance and prance in the meadows of love and dreams.

BUT if you do not believe in god then you will go to hell -said in a deep and scary voice- where there are lakes of fire and evil and it's like dark and firey and worse then your worst nightmares. You are in eternal pain and agony and there's lots of bad things going on.. it's like REALLY bad more bad then you can imagine in a billion infinity lifetimes and if you were to even LOOK UPON hell then you would go crazy and die. Because it is really really BAD.

So you know.. that's about the jist of it all. Believe in it or burn in hell.

[Heero Valentine]

xD josh...u just said what i wanted to post

[Afronaught]

The problem is.... not many posters here believe in god.... The Church of Atheisim is growing in numbers.... could it be the bible bashers are afaid of being bashed by the text book bashers?

I'm not a christian, so I can't make someone believe in something I do not, also... Whatever your religeious belief is, it's a personal choice... so it's pretty mutch futile to try and convert someone to a specific relegieon.

[Heero Valentine]

try to explain that to all the religious people in my village Oo

Oo jehova witnesses...

[raize te gaff]

If you believe in god and be christian and stuff then you will go to heaven when you die which is a good place full of sunshine rivers and rainbow gumdrop smiles where fairy princesses and happy la la gnomes dance and prance in the meadows of love and dreams.

BUT if you do not believe in god then you will go to hell -said in a deep and scary voice- where there are lakes of fire and evil and it's like dark and firey and worse then your worst nightmares. You are in eternal pain and agony and there's lots of bad things going on.. it's like REALLY bad more bad then you can imagine in a billion infinity lifetimes and if you were to even LOOK UPON hell then you would go crazy and die. Because it is really really BAD.

So you know.. that's about the jist of it all. Believe in it or burn in hell.
Are you on the acid again?:1orglaugh:

[MontysDouble]

Beware...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/lavans02/People/popeB.jpg










The dark side...

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Kudzu1/popeatine.jpg

[Big Ozzie]

I'm listening.

I believe that you already do, ASDF!
If you did not believe or wonder what realy is the Truth, you would not ask for it.
Mortal man can not prove the existence of God...no matter what Religion that you chose to follow.
That is why it is called FAITH.
God will prove his existence to you if you allow him to.
IMO, either you have created this thread because something in your life has questioned the reason
for your existence or you just wanted to stir a controversy in these forums.
If you need proof, look into yourself and find him.
That is all the proof you will need!

[MontysDouble]

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa295/Achmat11/Babelfish_art.jpg

...if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language.
Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindbogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.

The argument goes something like this: I refuse to prove that I exist, says God, for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.
But, says Man, the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.
Oh dear, says God, I hadn't thought of that, and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

[DaisyDontDuke]

I believe that you already do, ASDF!
If you did not believe or wonder what realy is the Truth, you would not ask for it.
Mortal man can not prove the existence of God...no matter what Religion that you chose to follow.
That is why it is called FAITH.
God will prove his existence to you if you allow him to.
IMO, either you have created this thread because something in your life has questioned the reason
for your existence or you just wanted to stir a controversy in these forums.
If you need proof, look into yourself and find him.
That is all the proof you will need!

Exactly what I was thinking.:xyxthumbs:

[loadrunner]

No matter what you beleve.


life sucks.

[HeyBuddy]

The problem is.... not many posters here believe in god.... The Church of Atheisim is growing in numbers.... could it be the bible bashers are afaid of being bashed by the text book bashers?

I'm not a christian, so I can't make someone believe in something I do not, also... Whatever your religeious belief is, it's a personal choice... so it's pretty mutch futile to try and convert someone to a specific relegieon.

I believe in God, and it isn't a matter of being afraid of text book bashers. The truth is that, I can't make anybody believe in God. I don't think that anyone else in this forum can either.

If you want to have faith in God, you need to talk to God about it. I don't think he posts to filecabi.net too often.

No matter what you beleve.


life sucks.

My life is pretty good. :40:

[loadrunner]

I always seem to meet the wrong guys..

How can I get rid of the guy who wants to borrow $500, so he can make $2000 out of it? He keeps annoying me for about 25 days now...

[Heero Valentine]

I always seem to meet the wrong guys..

How can I get rid of the guy who wants to borrow $500, so he can make $2000 out of it? He keeps annoying me for about 25 days now...

put your dick in his mouth.

[UncoverReality]

I'm guessing your parents didn't force religion down your throat as a child asdf?? It's an effective and proven method of making people believe in god. Failing that, your only other option is a near-death experience. People seem to believe god has intervened to save them, although he fails to intervene on a lot of other shit. Or maybe join a drug rehabilitation program. That's seems to help a lot of people believe in god for some reason.

[HeyBuddy]

Or you can go to prison. Everybody finds Jesus in prison. If not, they find Allah.

[SnakeBabe]

My husband was once asked that at a dinner. He said we have two choices, evolution or God. He then handed them my business card with this photo on it …
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z232/TheSnakeBabe/snakebabetophat.jpg

And said
“No way could evolution make a set of boobs that perfect.”

I LOVE MY HUSBAND!!!
:) :) :)
Hugs and Hissessss,
Maria

[Nanabunga]

Like whats been said, I don't think anyone can make you do anything. For me, my faith in God helps me get through the day sometimes. With all the hate and evil in the world that sometimes gets me down, I have to believe theres a reason for it all.

Just yesterday there was a post on site of a little kitten being covered in lighter fluid and set on fire until it died, thankfully the mods deleted it before it sat around for too long. ( Thanks again PA :xyxthumbs: ) I have to believe that maybe someone saw that post while it was up and might make a donation to their local pound on their way to the store today, or adopt a pet and give it a good home because of how they felt after seeing that disturbing footage. By thinking that, ( no matter how foolish you might think it is ) it helps me to accept that the poor kitten didn't die in vain. Now I'm no crazy feline lover, my wifes cat pisses the ever living shit out of me but to torture a defenseless little animal for no reason is just plain sick.

My faith in a higher power makes me a better person, not better than you mind you but better than I would be if I didn't have it. I am more accepting of others and more open minded to their point of view and opinions, even when I don't agree with them. I try not to judge anyone because of their lack of beliefs but I wonder how many of those people judge me because of mine. If my faith in the end proves to be nothing more than an excuse to be a better person to those around me while I'm here, well . . . I'm OK with that as well.

The reality is simple, if Josh is right, when I die I will be nothing more than a cemetery plot and will have wasted most of my life having faith in something that doesn't exist, believing in something that isn't real. If Josh is wrong however, he will spend eternity in hell, waist deep in a lake of fire, while I play with fairy princesses and happy la la gnomes dancing and prancing in the meadows of love and dreams with sunshine rivers and rainbow gumdrop smiles.

I'm gonna take that chance but that's my personal choice and you have yours.

:)

[MontysDouble]

What I find repelling about religions -as opposed to belief in god- is the attitude that Nanabunga has just displayed.

I find it very difficult to accept the teachings, tenets and dogma of any church that asks for people to follow it, or be damned to that particular religion's version of eternal punishment after death. Likewise, for a religion to ask for humble or meek acceptance of one's earthly lot on a promise of eternal life at god's right hand strikes me as outrageous.

I reckon that no religion has any sort of exclusive line to any spitirual truths, but are merely frameworks for the apparently fundamental need that some people have to believe in something of infinite power and wisdom that personally had a hand in their creation and cares about them. In this sense, any one religion is valid, but not to the extent that it may claim others are not.

[Nanabunga]

What I find repelling about religions -as opposed to belief in god- is the attitude that Nanabunga has just displayed.



wow . . what attitude was that ? I stated how it affects me and my life then I merely said, if this is true this is what happens . . . and if that was true that is what happens.

:omg:

No wonder why I stay out of these discussions . . .

I try not to judge anyone because of their lack of beliefs but I wonder how many of those people judge me because of mine.

I guess that makes one so far.

[ICE420]

put your dick in his mouth.

Then he´ll OWE him 2 Grand:1orglaugh: .

[MontysDouble]

The reality is simple, if Josh is right, when I die I will be nothing more than a cemetery plot and will have wasted most of my life having faith in something that doesn't exist, believing in something that isn't real. If Josh is wrong however, he will spend eternity in hell, waist deep in a lake of fire, while I play with fairy princesses and happy la la gnomes dancing and prancing in the meadows of love and dreams with sunshine rivers and rainbow gumdrop smiles.

I'm gonna take that chance but that's my personal choice and you have yours.

:)Is that not an implied threat? What could one faith's version of eternal damnation possibly have to do with someone of a different -or in this case no, I assume- faith?

[HeyBuddy]

If you don't believe in it, then it shouldn't bother you. I'm not offended by chain letters, because I believe them to be BS.

[Nanabunga]

I merely stated what the bible teaches . . . I'm not sure how that became MY ATTITUDE

??

[MontysDouble]

^^^ Kudos to you Nana: It's not your attitude- at least not in an overarching sense. I had no idea you were religious until your post I quoted. I said "the attitude that Nanabunga has just demonstrated."

[tgd_02]

why? so you can become like the majority of the population and try to "save" heathens who dont follow your credences?
nah ill save myself teh effort

[MontysDouble]

Believing in -or at leat hailing- the Abrahamic concept of Satan, how can you say that TGD?

:angry-smiley-056: to Satan.

[Nanabunga]

^^^ Kudos to you Nana: It's not your attitude- at least not in an overarching sense. I had no idea you were religious until your post I quoted. I said "the attitude that Nanabunga has just demonstrated."

Actually you said displayed which may or may not have different implementations :

What I find repelling about religions -as opposed to belief in god- is the attitude that Nanabunga has just displayed.



but lets not split hairs eh ?

. . . and for the record, I'm NOT religious but I do believe in a God.

:drinkup:

[MontysDouble]

:drinkup:First thing in the morning? Hell no- I'll raise a glass to you tonight. :xyxthumbs:

[Nanabunga]

First thing in the morning? Hell no- I'll raise a glass to you tonight. :xyxthumbs:

lol

It's after four PM here mate.

:xyxthumbs:

[HeyBuddy]

This is just a thought, on the topic of hell.

Everyone seems to believe that during Biblical times, people believed that the earth was flat. This would be because they didn't have the science to show otherwise. With that being said, Christianity and other religions all seemed to know of a "lake of fire" below the earth's surface. Current science tells us, that there is indeed a fiery core deep within the earth.

Was this just a guess?

[tgd_02]

Believing in -or at leat hailing- the Abrahamic concept of Satan, how can you say that TGD?

:angry-smiley-056: to Satan.
aw come on now, i didnt offend u wit my hail satan pic did i? lol
uh id go into telling you about satirical pics and their meanings to me...

but

that would reveal more about myself, which i dont like doing at all...
lawl

[HeyBuddy]

aw come on now, i didnt offend u wit my hail satan pic did i? lol
uh id go into telling you about satirical pics and their meanings to me...

but

that would reveal more about myself, which i dont like doing at all...
lawl

Go ahead, we already know that your real name is Carlos Mencia.

[Josh85]

I think the fact that punishment for NOT believing in god given the countless other options and the extreme lack of evidence and the fact that (if he did exist) he created us to be skeptical.... being eternal pain and damnation in hell... if you can't tell this isn't an extremely over the top and harsh punishment.. then yeh.. come on.

If there was a god and he was willing to condemn his own creations to that kind of punishment just for not believing in him.. well then he must be one hell of a prick, and I'd prefer to go to hell.

[tgd_02]

Go ahead, we already know that your real name is Carlos Mencia.
id rather be a ghetto white boy in rich suburbia than affiliate myself wit that fake mexican

[HeyBuddy]

id rather be a ghetto white boy in rich suburbia than affiliate myself wit that fake mexican


Damn...I tried.

[MontysDouble]

I think the fact that punishment for NOT believing in god given the countless other options and the extreme lack of evidence and the fact that (if he did exist) he created us to be skeptical.... being eternal pain and damnation in hell... if you can't tell this isn't an extremely over the top and harsh punishment.. then yeh.. come on.

If there was a god and he was willing to condemn his own creations to that kind of punishment just for not believing in him.. well then he must be one hell of a prick, and I'd prefer to go to hell.But you won't because you can't believe in just one god -or other metaphysical entity- in a particular pantheon.

Thus:
Practicing Christians by definition believe in Satan, prince of lies. True Satanists might think that they are pissing off Christians, but they are merely affirming Christians' beliefs, providing sacriligeous behaviour that all the righteous can point at and go "oh, aren't we bettern than that- it's true, Satan's followers are trying to get us to _____ ____!" Righteous or heretic, you're still a believer.

I'm a heathen.

[cheese muffin]

Hell is a motivator, as is heaven. Without motivation nothing happens. Hell only exists because heaven exists, and vice versa. If the church were to tell people that hell was waiting for them if they would not behave, and that if they did nothing would happen, would that be as great a motivator as saying that there is eternal comfort and bliss waiting for them if they would behave? Likewise, people are less likely to work for the rewards of heaven if there is no threat of hell, which is at the other end of the spectrum.

[brownbearclan]

I'm listening.

Typically that's the point in believing in god, having faith in something you can't prove. So if you already don't believe, why would anyone want to try and convince you otherwise?

[verticalkiller]

Looking at it from a self preservationist point of view, i'd rather cover my ass and find out I was wrong, no theres nothin after death than. No, i was wrong, I mean come on, i'm on fire. I love how most of you are just so absolutly sure that there is no God, have you tried looking? Religion iself is pointless if you've got no real belief in your convictions.

[MontysDouble]

So, what's a better motivator to make people behave in accordance with generally accepted societal values; Satan's stick or God's carrot? Does either stand up in the face of 21st century time-pressures and having to listen to a boring old fruitcake for half your Sunday morning?

What behaviour does God expect from me that I don't already do off my own bat? Why should I do the rituals?

[HeyBuddy]

I'm not into rituals. I do believe in God. I'm sure I'd be a good person, even if I didn't. My faith is just a part of me. It's just faith, without any motivation or strings attached. I believe he works in my life, and that I'm stronger because of God. I believe that there is life after this world. I can't prove anything to any of you. I just believe.

[Nanabunga]

I'm not into rituals. I do believe in God. I'm sure I'd be a good person, even if I didn't. My faith is just a part of me. It's just faith, without any motivation or strings attached. I believe he works in my life, and that I'm stronger because of God. I believe that there is life after this world. I can't prove anything to any of you. I just believe.

Exactly.

I don't go to church. I don't do 'rituals'. I don't follow any particular religion. I simply believe in a higher power, a creator, or whatever kind of label you choose to put on 'him'.

[tgd_02]

Exactly.

I don't go to church. I don't do 'rituals'. I don't follow any particular religion. I simply believe in a higher power, a creator, or whatever kind of label you choose to put on 'him'.
or her ;)

[Nanabunga]

or her ;)

:xyxthumbs:

[boo_cocky]

For anyone who struggles with atheism or agnosticism, or even someone who's fully comfortable in their atheistic or agnostic beliefs, I would URGE you to read the following:

Alcoholics Anonymous (aka 'The Big Book); the chapter titled 'WE AGNOSTICS'...

There's no religious denomination being sold, not Judaism, Christianity, Muslim...nothing...it's about getting in touch with SPIRITUALITY, not RELIGION or God as a specific concept...any reference to the word God is expressed 'GOD, AS WE UNDERSTAND HIM'...which leaves open the reader to freely view ANYTHING as a higher power, as long as it's convenient and realistic for YOU.

This could be nature, mysticism, yin-yang, a group of people you respect and depend on...whatever works for YOU.

Aside from that, the chapter makes a very strong argument for the existence of a Higher Power of some form, and uses very good analogies and situations to support it.

If nothing else, I think anyone who reads it will find it a very interesting and unbiased approach to understanding 'God'...as YOU understand Him.

(And it doesn't 'force' you to believe in God, or in anything else...many members of AA have fully recovered from their addictions, maintain their Atheism or Agnosticism, yet enjoy a very fulfilled SPIRITUAL connection with a Higher Power...sounds like a contradiction, but it's not...enjoy the read.)

[HeyBuddy]

Sounds interesting. I'm always up for a good read. Where can someone find this "Big Book", without joining AA?

[MontysDouble]

or her ;) REG:
Agreed.
FRANCIS:
Thank you, brother.
STAN:
Or sister.
FRANCIS:
Or sister. Where was I?
REG:
I think you'd finished.
FRANCIS:
Oh. Right.
REG:
Furthermore, it is the birthright of every man--
STAN:
Or woman.
REG:
Why don't you shut up about women, Stan. You're putting us off.
STAN:
Women have a perfect right to play a part in our movement, Reg.
FRANCIS:
Why are you always on about women, Stan?
STAN:
I want to be one.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Zippozeppo/07_stan.jpg

[tgd_02]

^^^^^hahahhahahaha LMFAO
nah, i just thnk the fact of a goddess is badass

[MontysDouble]

^^^ Yeah- 100%.

Like Nike:
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w248/Dunkaholic15/nikegoddess.jpg

[boo_cocky]

Sounds interesting. I'm always up for a good read. Where can someone find this "Big Book", without joining AA?

You can get the big book at any bookstore, or on eBay, etc.

You DON'T by any means have to be an alcoholic or seeking a 12 step program for living to get an awful lot out of the book...just like you don't have to be religious to read the bible...or like Brad Pitt to enjoy The Fight Club.

The Big Book, however, is MUCH easier to read and much more down to earth than the Bible, imo...it's like spiritual kindergarten, but has a lot of other interesting things in it...it's basically a spiritual healing process, revolving around 12 simple steps for living...the steps are based/derived from widely accepted principles of psychology, medical field, VARIOUS religious and spiritual beliefs and common sense.

Honestly, it's the most helpful book I've ever read...it really is a good read. I was strongly agnostic prior to reading it, this book opened up my eyes to a lot of things, but did it in such a way that it was on MY TERMS, not the author's...needless to say, I'm no longer agnostic, and I've applied the principles in the book to stay sober for over 2 1/2 years, happily.

(BTW...the Big Book is highly regarded and accepted by the medical profession AND religious organizations of ALL denominations. It's not 'selling' medicine, God, or religion...yet, is well respected and embraced by all of the above as a very legitimate healing program.)

[MontysDouble]

Y'know, I really reckon that spiritual individualism is on the rise, and why damn not? Time and time again, throughout history, all sorts of -primarily religious- groups have demonstrated such blatant xenophobia.

Perhaps, organised religion should be altogether abandoned as hopelessly divisive if they can't refrain from actively seeking converts, if they are unable to accept the free will of others, and if they are unable to refrain from threatening heathens with damnation.

Live and let bloody live.

[boo_cocky]

Sounds interesting. I'm always up for a good read. Where can someone find this "Big Book", without joining AA?

BTW...I have the text of the book in Word format...if you can't find the book, or just want to check out that chapter, PM me and I can email it to you.

[boo_cocky]

Y'know, I really reckon that spiritual individualism is on the rise, and why damn not? Time and time again, throughout history, all sorts of -primarily religious- groups have demonstrated such blatant xenophobia.

Perhaps, organised religion should be altogether abandoned as hopelessly divisive if they can't refrain from actively seeking converts, if they are unable to accept the free will of others, and if they are unable to refrain from threatening heathens with damnation.

Live and let bloody live.

You just hit the nail on the head...imo...

I went from Agnostic, to 'I believe in God', to 'I believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah' to Catholic...

Let me ASSURE you, if it WASN'T for me having the luxury and freedom to come to these beliefs ON MY OWN, I'd never have gotten there. I don't trust authority, I don't trust governments, religious organizations, medical executives, etc...

With that said, I'm now CATHOLIC, which is almost a contradiction in itself. It's where MY spiritual journey took me...the Pope didn't bring me there, the Priests and Nuns didn't bring me there. In all honestly, they KEPT me away, atleast, my perception of them kept me away, for many, many years.

The Big Book and my personal spiritual journey took me to where I am today...because the Big Book didn't force feed me the author's spiritual or religious preference...he helped me realize how to NURTURE MY OWN.

(I believe Bill Wilson, the author, was Agnostic who became Christian, but he wasn't Catholic...and the word 'Jesus' or 'Mohammed' or any other denominiational term is not even included in the Big Book's verbiage, anywhere.)

[MontysDouble]

^^^ Just great, Butterz: You've blown Bill W's cover... :D

Yep- it's all about freedom of association. The biggest danger to this is Orwellian groupthink.

[Raidenator]

Believe in God you son of a bitch!

[boo_cocky]

^^^ Just great, Butterz: You've blown Bill W's cover... :D

Yep- it's all about freedom of association. The biggest danger to this is Orwellian groupthink.

lol...He was only known as 'Bill W' until his death...anonymity was no longer applicable upon his death, per Bill himself.

Even with that, Bill was known by many as 'Bill Wilson' while still alive...he kept the 'Bill W' moniker solely as a 'token' of anonymity for those in program, but it's not demanded on anyone. I know guys who introduce themselves by their full name i program, that's up to them...it's only breaking tradition if someone ELSE uses their full name in connection with AA, against their request.

The issue of anonymity is more important in media...newspaper, television, radio, etc...which is why you don't hear most celebrities in recovery use the term 'AA'...they generally refer to it as a '12 step recovery program', etc. If these same celebrities suffer a relapse, it would be common for the general public to assume 'Oh, see...that AA stuff doesn't work! Look, 'so and so' is on heroin and drinking again...pfffft...AA is useless, it doesn't work!'

The reality is, the program only works as good as the person works it.

[Josh85]

The best part about religion is the fact I really don't care what you believe.

As long as you don't care what I believe. Or anyone else.

Though I'm all for deep and meaningful religious conversations when I'm drunk with friends.. but we only talk in "what ifs"... and that's how it should stay.

[Borro]

I'm listening to the Ugly Kid Joe classic "I'm the Goddamn Devil" right now.

[Raidenator]

Alright asdf. Pull your pants down and I'm gonna pull out a knife. Then we'll see who's begging for God after that :D.

[Nanabunga]

Sounds interesting. I'm always up for a good read. Where can someone find this "Big Book", without joining AA?

Actually you don't have to 'join' AA. You can just walk into a meeting, right off the street, that's what everyone else does. There's no membership, no sign up fee, no ID check. While your there you can sit and listen, or if you really wanted to, you could find someone that may be part of the group hosting the meeting and ask about a big book. They may have some there and you will get a copy for free. They also may tell you come back such and such date/time . . it really depends where you go.

Or you can just buy one somewhere I suppose.

About ten years ago when I got into some trouble with the law, one of my conditions of probation was attend AA meetings and go to court ordered drug and alcohol counseling/testing. The counselor said I should get my hands on the book, and I did exactly what I stated above. I've read parts of it at times, it is a good book for the most part but you wont have to worry about completing the steps in order. :1bluewinky:

. . . . and for the record it really isn't that big.

:xyxthumbs:

so in the words of the AA meetings 'regulars' Keep coming . . it works if you work it

:drinkup: oops . . maybe that's inappropriate, :omg:

[HeyBuddy]

Actually you don't have to 'join' AA. You can just walk into a meeting, right off the street, that's what everyone else does. There's no membership, no sign up fee, no ID check. While your there you can sit and listen, or if you really wanted to, you could find someone that may be part of the group hosting the meeting and ask about a big book. They may have some there and you will get a copy for free. They also may tell you come back such and such date/time . . it really depends where you go.

Or you can just buy one somewhere I suppose.

About ten years ago when I got into some trouble with the law, one of my conditions of probation was attend AA meetings and go to court ordered drug and alcohol counseling/testing. The counselor said I should get my hands on the book, and I did exactly what I stated above. I've read parts of it at times, it is a good book for the most part but you wont have to worry about completing the steps in order. :1bluewinky:

. . . . and for the record it really isn't that big.

:xyxthumbs:

so in the words of the AA meetings 'regulars' Keep coming . . it works if you work it

:drinkup: oops . . maybe that's inappropriate, :omg:

If it doesn't work when you work it, they make pills for that.

[Nanabunga]

If it doesn't work when you work it, they make pills for that.

lmao

:drinkup:

[boo_cocky]

so in the words of the AA meetings 'regulars' Keep coming . . it works if you work it

:drinkup: oops . . maybe that's inappropriate, :omg:

lol...nah, it's not inappropriate...most people are drunk off their ass when they attend their first several AA meetings.

And, discussing the slogans in here doesn't in any way compromise the 'anonymity'...it's all good.

I like that saying, but I don't like how we say it...end of the meeting, everyone's holding hands, shake hands up and down and chant...It works if you work it, so work it you're WORTH IT!

Yeah...gay...but one hell of a program. It's helped save many lives and made many lives happy and productive. Not drinking is one thing...improving the quality of life you live on top of being sober is the real gift.

[Nanabunga]

...Keep coming, it works if you work it, so work it you're WORTH IT!



mmmmm not alone I am.

Same experience you have.

Understand my statement you do.

:omg:

Sorry watched SW3 last night with the boy, kicks ass Yoda does.

[MontysDouble]

If it doesn't work when you work it, they make pills for that.You're referring to Naloxone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcan), AKA Narcan, right Buddy?

[HeyBuddy]

lol...nah, it's not inappropriate...most people are drunk off their ass when they attend their first several AA meetings.

And, discussing the slogans in here doesn't in any way compromise the 'anonymity'...it's all good.

I like that saying, but I don't like how we say it...end of the meeting, everyone's holding hands, shake hands up and down and chant...It works if you work it, so work it you're WORTH IT!

Yeah...gay...but one hell of a program. It's helped save many lives and made many lives happy and productive. Not drinking is one thing...improving the quality of life you live on top of being sober is the real gift.

Don't you think it is a bit counterproductive when they force people to go though? I had two friends that were forced to go, and one made 3 new drinking buddies. The other came in to the bar once a week after a meeting and after his final meeting, he celebrated by bringing several members and buying everyone in the bar a round of shots.

Since I've never been to a meeting, these guys may have been in the minority. I don't know.

[HeyBuddy]

You're referring to Naloxone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcan), AKA Narcan, right Buddy?

I was thinking of Viagra or Cialis actually...lol

"It works if you work it" :xyxthumbs:

LOL...sorry, bad joke.

[boo_cocky]

Don't you think it is a bit counterproductive when they force people to go though? I had two friends that were forced to go, and one made 3 new drinking buddies. The other came in to the bar once a week after a meeting and after his final meeting, he celebrated by bringing several members and buying everyone in the bar a round of shots.

Since I've never been to a meeting, these guys may have been in the minority. I don't know.

Well, statistically, people who are FORCED to go generally don't get sober during that period. But, they do gain knowledge of the disease and of the support group and steps for living should they ever decide to get sober.

So...it lays a foundation they may use down the road, and atleast makes them aware of the program. It helps...it's not totally counter productive...but, you can't make someone get sober...they have to want it.

AA doesn't condone 'forcing' people to attend meetings, that's the law makers trying to crack down on drunk driving incidents...it's more M.A.D.D. than A.A.

Common saying in AA that perhaps these people will one day say...'Don't you wish you'd gotten sober years earlier, why did it take you so long'...'Nope, I got here right on time...I wasn't done drinking yet before'.

[Nanabunga]

Don't you think it is a bit counterproductive when they force people to go though? I had two friends that were forced to go, and one made 3 new drinking buddies. The other came in to the bar once a week after a meeting and after his final meeting, he celebrated by bringing several members and buying everyone in the bar a round of shots.

Since I've never been to a meeting, these guys may have been in the minority. I don't know.

Hell yeah ! ( IMO )

For me it was just some of the wheelin' dealin' that my lawyer did to get me a lesser charge. I happen to be drunk and had pot in my system when they took a blood test, so the counseling and AA stuff was part of my probation. I didn't use these programs like they were meant to be used, in fact I still smoked weed during the counseling months, I just bought stuff online to beat the drug tests. It was more of a game to me really.

That was over ten years ago though, today, as a husband and a father, I'd most likely take things seriously and do stuff a bit differently.

:xyxthumbs:

[Imbalanced]

EVERYTIME YOU KILL A KITTEN, GOD MASTERBATES!

[cheese muffin]

EVERYTIME YOU KILL A KITTEN, GOD MASTERBATES!

What would God masturbate too?:eek7:

[boo_cocky]

EVERYTIME YOU KILL A KITTEN, GOD MASTERBATES!

LOOK! Satan's got himself a little hand-puppet!

btw...it's 'masturbates'

[Imbalanced]

LOOK! Satan's got himself a little hand-puppet!

btw...it's 'masturbates'

it is...sorry, my hand jerking spelling skills aren't up to par..

[Afronaught]

it is...sorry, my hand jerking spelling skills aren't up to par..

DUDE!

Where the fuck have you been...

Havent seen you for a while, Welcome Back :xyxthumbs:

[Imbalanced]

DUDE!

Where the fuck have you been...

Havent seen you for a while, Welcome Back :xyxthumbs:

i dunno man. i rolled this huge blunt and forgot where i was for 4 months...


naw, classes, work, sleep, repeat. that and i didn't have internet for a long time. i had a really rough summer and this semester at college has been hell.

[Anony-mous]

I'm listening.
no :1orglaugh:

[HeyBuddy]

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Sorry, it just sounds fun when you say it like that in your head.

[Anony-mous]

wtf..... lol

[boo_cocky]

wtf..... lol

I think that would be considered a form of 'worship' in some cultures, Jigga...you should be flattered! LOL

HB, are you starting a new cult over there? What's with the chanting? hehe

[HeyBuddy]

Sounds like a choo-choo train :)

[MontysDouble]

EVERYTIME YOU KILL A KITTEN, GOD MASTERBATES!And Master Bates:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r273/gavottine_asendevidra/normanbates.jpg

You've been a bad boy, Norman!