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hopper44
December 12th, 2007, 05:33 AM
A boy aged five shoots and kills a black bear,he does not need a lience to own a rifle,most states in America dont have age limit for owning a weapon.
(fox news)
boo_cocky
December 12th, 2007, 05:36 AM
Yeah, there was talk about this on ESPN.
Personally, I think it's fucked up...but, I'm not a hunter and it's not my kid. If the parents know what they're doing and teach the kid properly, I dunno...he's still under 18, so it's on them if something goes wrong.
Something about a kid that young handling a gun just doesn't sit well with me, though. He supposedly starting hunting when he was 2...WTF? There's no way a kid that young can comprehend what he's doing, or how dangerous what he's doing is.
hopper44
December 12th, 2007, 05:49 AM
I totally agree with you Iam not against people hunting and owning weapons but a kid that age come on
I think America should have an age limit on owing weapons thats my thoughts
Hopper44
Clouds in the Sky
December 12th, 2007, 05:50 AM
My thoughts are the following:
Fox News is the most reliable name in news.
:D
boo_cocky
December 12th, 2007, 05:53 AM
I totally agree with you Iam not against people hunting and owning weapons but a kid that age come on
I think America should have an age limit on owing weapons thats my thoughts
Hopper44
Honestly, I'm surprised they don't...you can't do anything in America anymore.
So, you can't smoke in your own car...but you can give a two year old a shotgun and let him operate it?
Yeah, that's rational.
Josh85
December 12th, 2007, 05:54 AM
Hunting shit like bears (that you don't eat) with a rifle is kinda of lame to begin with.
I mean if you can't kill it with your bare hands then you shouldn't be trying to kill it at all.
Killing a large predator with a gun doesn't prove anything.. wow.. point and shoot.. congratulations you just proved you're a pansy who can't fight fair.
If you want to take on powerful animals do it with your bear hands, punch the fucker to death and prove how manly you really are. (It might also make you look like a violent psychopath but a manly one nonetheless).
Big Ozzie
December 12th, 2007, 07:28 AM
The story is Bullshit. A five year old does not have the strength to lift a Rifle enough impact to kill a Bear, let alone hold it steady, aim, shoot and keep it tight to their shoulder to prevent injury from the recoil!
My call? BULLSHIT!
verticalkiller
December 12th, 2007, 07:50 AM
Thats what I was thinking Ozzie, I'd imagine if he were involved in the action i'd guess someone was helping him so he wouldn't get hurt and gave him the credit? Like wn you teach people to play gold or pool.
ICE420
December 12th, 2007, 07:51 AM
[quote=Clouds In The Sky;290425]My thoughts are the following:
Fox News is the most reliable name in news.
:xyxthumbs:
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logandk
December 12th, 2007, 07:53 AM
And the goverment wonder why all these kids go out and shoot people.
Ans stab each other every time you look at the news all over the world there are kids killing each other.
This kid should be remove from his family as said above he could not control a gun.If he did shoot the bear it was luck he could not have the muscel to aim and fire.
Maybe next time its the grandad that gets shot and not the bear.
Do You Think This Is Right ? my answer is no I don't
sib
December 12th, 2007, 08:57 AM
There is more to this story than is being reported.
1) A license is needed for the hunt and every state has an age limit, usually about 12, this gun requires no license, but requires a NICs check at purchase.
2) Hunter's Safety classes are a requirement in every state that I can think of and I don't think a 5 year old is old enough, it is generally 1 year before your legal hunting age.
3) Just because a child hunts and uses a gun does not mean the child owns said gun, it could be his father's or another family members and I'm sure it would be locked up between uses.
4) As the big one said, most 5 year olds would not be able to handle the recoil of a large caliber rifle, which would be required for large game, like a bear. We're not talking .22s here, we're talking .270, 30-06 and the magnum rounds for black bear, most 5 year olds could not shoulder and take the recoil. They, however, could trip the trigger while dad shouldered the rifle.
Maybe not a bullshit story, but definitely key information has been left out, imo.
HeyBuddy
December 12th, 2007, 09:28 AM
A) You don't own anything at the age of 5. Your parents own it.
B) If find it hard to believe that the parent's hands ever left the rifle. If it was powerful enough to drop a bear, it was powerful enough to knock over a 5 year old.
C) I don't think that hunting turns kids into future Columbine shooters. I think that kids who grow up hunting have more respect for firearms. They don't get their perception of guns from movies and video games. They know the consequences are final, and have seen it first hand. They relate guns with hunting, and not GTA, drug deals and shooting sprees.
HeyBuddy
December 12th, 2007, 09:30 AM
There is more to this story than is being reported.
1) A license is needed for the hunt and every state has an age limit, usually about 12, this gun requires no license, but requires a NICs check at purchase.
2) Hunter's Safety classes are a requirement in every state that I can think of and I don't think a 5 year old is old enough, it is generally 1 year before your legal hunting age.
3) Just because a child hunts and uses a gun does not mean the child owns said gun, it could be his father's or another family members and I'm sure it would be locked up between uses.
4) As the big one said, most 5 year olds would not be able to handle the recoil of a large caliber rifle, which would be required for large game, like a bear. We're not talking .22s here, we're talking .270, 30-06 and the magnum rounds for black bear, most 5 year olds could not shoulder and take the recoil. They, however, could trip the trigger while dad shouldered the rifle.
Maybe not a bullshit story, but definitely key information has been left out, imo.
Yeah...what he said. :xyxthumbs:
DaisyDontDuke
December 12th, 2007, 09:45 AM
Where I live hunting is very common, actually if you aren't a hunter you are considered abnormal. (not bears though)
I rather doubt the 5 yr. old boy got up one morning , said I'm going bear hunting, grabbed his gun, and headed off.
He didn't shoot that gun all by himself. No way. His dad was probably there, they were up in a stand, saw a bear, his dad held the gun and sighted the bear, and then asked his son to pull the trigger. I don't have a problem with that (if that's how it happened). I do have a problem with MANY other things that parents let their kids do.
I don't really see the point in bear hunting though. We hunt for deer, cause we eat the meat.
DaisyDontDuke
December 12th, 2007, 09:46 AM
A) You don't own anything at the age of 5. Your parents own it.
B) If find it hard to believe that the parent's hands ever left the rifle. If it was powerful enough to drop a bear, it was powerful enough to knock over a 5 year old.
C) I don't think that hunting turns kids into future Columbine shooters. I think that kids who grow up hunting have more respect for firearms. They don't get their perception of guns from movies and video games. They know the consequences are final, and have seen it first hand. They relate guns with hunting, and not GTA, drug deals and shooting sprees.
Very true.:xyxthumbs:
HeyBuddy
December 12th, 2007, 09:56 AM
I see kids around here under the age of 10, running around in packs, without their parents. They are singing rap lyrics, and talking about Grand Theft Auto.
If it were me, I'd rather my kid spend the weekend hunting with me, than listening to gangsta rap and playing GTA with his buddies.
HeyBuddy
December 12th, 2007, 09:58 AM
Where I live hunting is very common, actually if you aren't a hunter you are considered abnormal. (not bears though)
I rather doubt the 5 yr. old boy got up one morning , said I'm going bear hunting, grabbed his gun, and headed off.
He didn't shoot that gun all by himself. No way. His dad was probably there, they were up in a stand, saw a bear, his dad held the gun and sighted the bear, and then asked his son to pull the trigger. I don't have a problem with that (if that's how it happened). I do have a problem with MANY other things that parents let their kids do.
I don't really see the point in bear hunting though. We hunt for deer, cause we eat the meat.
LMAO...that's a great visual Daisy.
"Hey DAAAAAAD!"
"Yeah son."
"I'm going to go shoot a bear. I'll be back in time for lunch."
"Don't forget your hat. We're having StoveTop Stuffing, so don't be late."
Big Ozzie
December 12th, 2007, 10:37 AM
Okay...so you are flipping through the back of "Field and Stream"..."Outdoor Life"..."NorthAmericanHunter"..."Big Game Magazine"...or any of many other Hunting and/or Fishing magazines.
In the back you will find ads for Bear/Moose/Deer hunts in areas of Northern Maine and other Northern States, as well as different provinces in Canada.
You sign up for one of these "guaranteed results" hunts, pay about $1,000.00 to $5,000.00 (US) and go.
I know...I did.
The day after I arrived we went out to hunt Bear.
The hunters (6) piled into the back of an old truck and we drove down a logging road where most of the trees had been clear cut and there were "tops" piled all over.
The driver would stop and yell "Next...your stand is over there"
What was the stand?
An old 5 gallon bucket next to a tree!
From there, you had the view of a bait station that was set up for the Bears.
What was the Bait? Road Kill or the Carcass of a previous hunt? A side of Beef?
NOPE! Stale Donuts from a bakery in town and they have Honey Poured on them!
So I sit there for about 45 minutes, along comes a Bear. At first I thought that it was a dog, but realized that it was just a Black Bear with saddle markings and a white muzzle.
It was so small, that I did not shoot...after dark, the truck came back and picked me up.
Back at camp, three of the hunters were showing off their Bears. Not one of them were as big as the one I saw and did not shoot. The largest weighed about 140lbs dressed (220-240 live). They were all standing around taking pictures and bragging.
The next day, I declined to go on the Hunt, instead I went fishing for Walleye and Pike.
NEVER AGAIN will I go on one of those advertised hunts.
I have come face to face with Grizzly Bears near my Fathers ranch in Wyoming. I would rather take my chances hunting something that will hunt and kill me than shoot something that is eating out of a garbage pile!
BTW...I have always eaten what I have hunted and killed. That includes Bear!
yup
December 12th, 2007, 11:00 AM
I see kids around here under the age of 10, running around in packs, without their parents. They are singing rap lyrics, and talking about Grand Theft Auto.
If it were me, I'd rather my kid spend the weekend hunting with me, than listening to gangsta rap and playing GTA with his buddies.
No doubt about it:xyxthumbs:
brownbearclan
December 12th, 2007, 03:32 PM
Well regardless if this story is true or not, I just wish they would at least hunt something that is going to be used for food. It just seems really disrespectful to me to kill something otherwise.
I don't really see the point in bear hunting though. We hunt for deer, cause we eat the meat.
Yeah I definately agree, trophy hunting is lame imo.
Wow, you haven't even hit 400 posts yet and are up to 10 rep. already, your kicking some ass Daisy! You go girl! :xyxthumbs:
UnregisteredSexOffender
December 12th, 2007, 04:51 PM
The story is Bullshit. A five year old does not have the strength to lift a Rifle enough impact to kill a Bear, let alone hold it steady, aim, shoot and keep it tight to their shoulder to prevent injury from the recoil!
My call? BULLSHIT!
yeah, that and the black bear is only a myth... like the chupacabras :D
A) You don't own anything at the age of 5. Your parents own it.
B) If find it hard to believe that the parent's hands ever left the rifle. If it was powerful enough to drop a bear, it was powerful enough to knock over a 5 year old.
C) I don't think that hunting turns kids into future Columbine shooters. I think that kids who grow up hunting have more respect for firearms. They don't get their perception of guns from movies and video games. They know the consequences are final, and have seen it first hand. They relate guns with hunting, and not GTA, drug deals and shooting sprees.
Exactly. I was around guns a lot as a child, I was even allowed to fire the .22 and clean it. I see a gun for what it is. A dangerous weapon, especially in the wrong hands. I would have no problem letting my child fire a weapon under my supervision though. When they were ready of course.
cheese muffin
December 12th, 2007, 05:24 PM
A boy aged five shoots and kills a black bear,he does not need a lience to own a rifle,most states in America dont have age limit for owning a weapon.
(fox news)
LOL @ AMERICA
Welcome,
to a land where you can raise your child to be a racist pedophile as long as your child doesn't break any laws.
cheese muffin
December 12th, 2007, 05:26 PM
yeah, that and the black bear is only a myth... like the chupacabras :D
Exactly. I was around guns a lot as a child, I was even allowed to fire the .22 and clean it. I see a gun for what it is. A dangerous weapon, especially in the wrong hands. I would have no problem letting my child fire a weapon under my supervision though. When they were ready of course.
Yeah my uncle took me to a shooting range once. My uncle got freaked out for a bit, because I was apparently a good marksmen at age 10...or 11....or 9......not sure.
ceehound619
December 12th, 2007, 05:31 PM
A boy aged five shoots and kills a black bear,he does not need a lience to own a rifle,most states in America dont have age limit for owning a weapon.
(fox news)
hunting is wrong PERIOD...... the only reason for killing an animal is for the necessity of FOOD....or to end suffering.... any other reason is unjustified.
cheese muffin
December 12th, 2007, 05:33 PM
hunting is wrong PERIOD...... the only reason for killing an animal is for the necessity of FOOD....or to end suffering.... any other reason is unjustified.
agreed.
Taurino
December 12th, 2007, 05:49 PM
no it's not hunting is awesome.
I gets to eat venison and everything. so hunting FTW!
skunk the disc golfer
December 12th, 2007, 05:59 PM
The story is Bullshit. A five year old does not have the strength to lift a Rifle enough impact to kill a Bear, let alone hold it steady, aim, shoot and keep it tight to their shoulder to prevent injury from the recoil!
My call? BULLSHIT!
Why not? Davy Crockett killed him a bear when he was only three. :D :smilie_flagge13:
http://blog.oup.com/oupblog/images/001504.jpeg
cheese muffin
December 12th, 2007, 06:14 PM
no it's not hunting is awesome.
I gets to eat venison and everything. so hunting FTW!
As long as you eat what you kill, I don't really have any support to argue with. But as for killing just for sport, then that's just plain animal cruelty.
HeyBuddy
December 12th, 2007, 06:15 PM
hunting is wrong PERIOD...... the only reason for killing an animal is for the necessity of FOOD....or to end suffering.... any other reason is unjustified.
Two really good reasons.
1) Good eats.
2) Population control. Sometimes the DNR opens up the state parks for hunting if the population of dear gets too high. Overpopulation can threaten the entire population, due to an outbreak of disease.
Unless you're a vegetarian, I don't know how you can say hunting is wrong. Like Ted Nugent said, "You roll up to the drive-thru window, and say, 'kill me a burger'.".
ceehound619
December 12th, 2007, 06:16 PM
Two really good reasons.
1) Good eats.
2) Population control. Sometimes the DNR opens up the state parks for hunting if the population of dear gets too high. Overpopulation can threaten the entire population, due to an outbreak of disease.
Unless you're a vegetarian, I don't know how you can say hunting is wrong. Like Ted Nugent said, "You roll up to the drive-thru window, and say, 'kill me a burger'.".
yeah,,, #1.... food.... #2.... suffering....you just confirmed my logic... thanks.:xyxthumbs:
PlaneswalkerX
December 12th, 2007, 06:22 PM
A) You don't own anything at the age of 5. Your parents own it.
B) If find it hard to believe that the parent's hands ever left the rifle. If it was powerful enough to drop a bear, it was powerful enough to knock over a 5 year old.
C) I don't think that hunting turns kids into future Columbine shooters. I think that kids who grow up hunting have more respect for firearms. They don't get their perception of guns from movies and video games. They know the consequences are final, and have seen it first hand. They relate guns with hunting, and not GTA, drug deals and shooting sprees.
I have to agree with Tanto on this one.
cheese muffin
December 12th, 2007, 06:25 PM
Two really good reasons.
1) Good eats.
2) Population control. Sometimes the DNR opens up the state parks for hunting if the population of dear gets too high. Overpopulation can threaten the entire population, due to an outbreak of disease.
Unless you're a vegetarian, I don't know how you can say hunting is wrong. Like Ted Nugent said, "You roll up to the drive-thru window, and say, 'kill me a burger'.".
yeah,,, #1.... food.... #2.... suffering....you just confirmed my logic... thanks.:xyxthumbs:
lol what he said.
cheese muffin
December 12th, 2007, 06:26 PM
I have to agree with Tanto on this one.
leik zomg a civilized post by pwx :omg:
Big Ozzie
December 12th, 2007, 08:20 PM
Two really good reasons.
1) Good eats.
2) Population control. Sometimes the DNR opens up the state parks for hunting if the population of dear gets too high. Overpopulation can threaten the entire population, due to an outbreak of disease.
Unless you're a vegetarian, I don't know how you can say hunting is wrong. Like Ted Nugent said, "You roll up to the drive-thru window, and say, 'kill me a burger'.".
yeah,,, #1.... food.... #2.... suffering....you just confirmed my logic... thanks.:xyxthumbs:
What about Wall Decorations?
http://blog.al.com/pr/Smith%20home.jpg
skunk the disc golfer
December 12th, 2007, 08:24 PM
I have to agree with Tanto on this one.
A fleeting glimpse of brilliance. :smokin:
cheese muffin
December 12th, 2007, 08:31 PM
What about Wall Decorations?
http://blog.al.com/pr/Smith%20home.jpg
No.
skunk the disc golfer
December 12th, 2007, 08:33 PM
What about Wall Decorations?
http://blog.al.com/pr/Smith%20home.jpg
Only if there is at least one in every room....And it has to hold hats or a coat. :smokin:
boo_cocky
December 12th, 2007, 08:38 PM
I think it all depends on the motive behind the killing...
If those deer were killed to be trophies, then yeah, it's wrong. If they were killed for their meat, and the 'trophy' was secondary, I don't have a problem with it.
I do think it's kinda funny when hunters brag about their prey, though...like, it makes them a 'good' hunter that they got a huge animal.
You have a gun...and you're perched in a tree for hours...you shoot when you have a clear shot and the animal is worth shooting...it's pretty much that, it doesn't make you a 'good' hunter, it means you sat around long enough to have an animal come your way.
I've seen shows on ESPN where 11 year old girls took down big deer...they'd NEVER been hunting before...it's not a 'talent'. I know guys that hunt several times a year, and haven't gotten a buck in two years now...and they supposedly know what they're doing...lol
skunk the disc golfer
December 12th, 2007, 08:38 PM
Or if it's a chandelier. :xyxthumbs:
http://www.dickidol.com/images/Product/Pacific%20Coast%20Lighting/84-24746-00.jpg
HeyBuddy
December 12th, 2007, 11:23 PM
Ted Nugent has that in his house, but he also ate them and made something out of the skin.
hopper44
December 13th, 2007, 06:49 AM
First I would like to say thanks for all your comments,they are very interesting reading.I posted this just to find out what reaction there would be,
1/ some people thought the story was"bullshit"if that is the case why did fox news and other media give it air time?
2/Most people dont think a five year old could handle a hunting rifle & he would have been supervised most certainly
3/A lot of people thought hunting for the sake of hunting was bad
This is not a survey its just my thoughts
Thanks again Hopper44
sib
December 13th, 2007, 08:27 AM
LOL @ AMERICA
Welcome,
to a land where you can raise your child to be a racist pedophile as long as your child doesn't break any laws.
That is the essence of freedom, freedom to do as you see fit without govt. interference as long as you're within the boundry of the laws. That includes freedom to teach hate, racism, misogyny and intolerance. I would rather have freedom and the occassional dirtbag that comes with freedom, than surrender my freedom and have someone make choices for me.
I despise the type of people I mentioned above, but freedom is bigger and more important than those individuals and freedom should never be given away because someone is offended, including myself.
footballbat
December 13th, 2007, 09:12 AM
Cooking with Bear Meat
Bear Stew
- 3 sl bacon, cut up
- 4 md onions, quartered
- 4 md potatoes, quartered
- 1 pk fresh or frozen green beans
- 3 bay leaves
- 2 lb bear, cubed (or venison, elk etc )
- 4 carrots, sliced
- 1 pk fresh or frozen peas
- 1 (46 oz.) can tomato juice
Brown bacon in heavy kettle. Add bear and brown on all sides. Add onions and saute. Add all remaining ingredients and simmer 1 hour or until flavors are mixed and vegetables and meat are tender. Remove bay leaves.
Bear Meatloaf
- 2 lb ground meat
- 3/4 cup of water
- 1/2 cup of milk
- 2 eggs
- salt and pepper to taste
- 1/4 tsp. thyme
- 1/4 tsp. oregano
- 3/4 cup tomato sauce
- 1 cup onion, minced
- 1 1/2 tsp. dry mustard
- 1 cup bread crumbs
- 1/2 green pepper, finely chopped
r - 1 small can of mushrooms or fresh mushrooms
Bake at 350 until done (about an hour). When it looks close to being done, maybe 15 minutes, Spread either BBQ sauce or ketchup over the top
Bear Roast
- 4 lb Bear meat
- Pepper to taste
- Celery salt to taste
- 2 Garlic cloves
- 8 oz (piece) Salt pork
Boil the bear meat in 2 qts of water and 1 tb soda to eliminate the wild taste. Season the bear meat with the celery salt and pepper and place in a stock pot, adding the garlic, salt pork, and enough water to cover; Cook `til meat is tender, then drain reserving the pan juices. Place the meat in a roasting pan and top with the onions, roast at 350 degrees F. until brown, basting with the reserved juices. Thicken the remaining juices for gravy and serve over potatoes served with the bear roast.
Bear Chops
- 3/4 inch bear chops
- Salt and pepper
- Paprika
- Garlic
- Onion powder
- 1 cn mushroom soup
- 1 cn mushrooms
Trim fat from chop
s. Roll in flour seasoned with salt, pepper, paprika, garlic, and onion powder to taste. Brown in hot shortening and place in oven pan. Cover with a can of mushroom soup, a can of water and, if desired a can of mushrooms with liquid. Place in oven at 350 degrees for 1 1/2 hours. If desired, top with canned onion rings during last 20 minutes of baking
Barbecued Bear
- 3 lb bear steak cut in 2" cubes
- 1 sl salt pork, cut up
- 1 c catsup
- 1/3 c steak sauce
- 2 tb tarragon vinegar
- 1 onion, diced
- 1 tb lemon juice
- 1 ts salt
- 1 tb chili powder
Trim all fat from bear steak and cut into 2 inch cubes. Sear meat on all sides with salt pork in a heavy fry pan. Place meat in casserole. Add rest of ingredients to fry pan and bring to a boil, stirring constantly. Pour sauce over meat in casserole. Cover and bake for at least 2 hours in a 325 degree F. oven, stirring occasionally until meat is tender.
Bear Sausage
- 20 lbs. ground bear meat
- 10 lbs. ground beaf meat
- 6 tsp. red pepper
- 12 lbs. ground pork butt
- 15 tsp. garlic salt
- 3 lbs. slab bacon, ground
- 7 1/2 tsp. pepper
Mix all together. Fry in pan for breakfast sausage, good on pizza, and makes great meatballs as well.
Roasted Loin with Potatoes and Carrots
- Bear loin
- 1 head cabbage
- 10-12 lg. potatoes
- 10-12 carrots
- Lawry's seasoned salt
- 1 pkg. bacon
- Fresh ground black pepper
Soak loin in cold water overnight as to remove as much blood as possible. Season loin with seasoned salt and black pepper. Wrap slices of bacon around loin until covered and sprinkle with black pepper. Cut cabbage into quarters. Place bacon wrapped loin in roaster pan and cover with cabbage wedges and add about 1 cup of water. Bake covered at 375 for about 4 hrs or until cabbage starts to cook down. Remove cabbage and discard. Add carrots and potatoes cover and cook for another 1-2 hours until vegetables are done. Uncover for last 30 minutes of cooking time. You may need to add a little water from time to time during cooking time.
Black Bear Marinade
- 1 cup dry red wine
- 1/2 cup olive oil
- 1 onion chopped
- 6 cloves garlic crushed
- 1 sliced carrot
- 1/2 tbs of dried tarragon
- Salt and pepper adjust to your own taste
Place meat in roaster, roast or steaks, in marinade and cover and refrigerate overnight turning often prior bedtime. Remove from marinade approx., 2 hrs. prior cooking to allow meat to come to room temp. Strain marinade and reserve liquid for gravy. Pre-Heat oven to 350 Deg. turning the roast and or steaks halfway through cooking time, about 3 hours. for 4 1/2 lb. roast. GRAVY; with broth in pan bring to medium boil on stove top and add marinade liquid, to thicken I use 1/2 cup flour mixed with 1 1/2 cups of water seasoned with celery salt, shake or stir well and gradually pour into pan keeping stirring constant. Carve roast (boneless) into 1/4 inch slices and place on platter pouring gravy over meat, will serve 8.
HeyBuddy
December 13th, 2007, 09:26 AM
First I would like to say thanks for all your comments,they are very interesting reading.I posted this just to find out what reaction there would be,
1/ some people thought the story was"bullshit"if that is the case why did fox news and other media give it air time?
2/Most people dont think a five year old could handle a hunting rifle & he would have been supervised most certainly
3/A lot of people thought hunting for the sake of hunting was bad
This is not a survey its just my thoughts
Thanks again Hopper44
Because they knew that it would get attention. Some guy said it happened. They knew that nobody could disprove it, but people would talk about it, just like we are. I'm sure a lot of people went to their websites to check out the story. It's all about driving up web traffic, and tv ratings.
crazee horse
December 13th, 2007, 11:26 AM
[quote=sib;290471]There is more to this story than is being reported.
1) A license is needed for the hunt and every state has an age limit, usually about 12, this gun requires no license, but requires a NICs check at purchase.
WTF?
sib
December 13th, 2007, 11:33 AM
[quote=sib;290471]There is more to this story than is being reported.
1) A license is needed for the hunt and every state has an age limit, usually about 12, this gun requires no license, but requires a NICs check at purchase.
WTF?
Actually, Arkansas doesn't have an age limit I learned after checking into licensing requirements. You are required to have a hunting license.
Nics check info can be found here:
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/enroll.htm
boo_cocky
December 13th, 2007, 01:31 PM
[quote=sib;290471]There is more to this story than is being reported.
1) A license is needed for the hunt and every state has an age limit, usually about 12, this gun requires no license, but requires a NICs check at purchase.
WTF?
Who says they weren't hunting on their own land?
The 5 year old didn't have a license, the guardian did.
sib
December 13th, 2007, 03:31 PM
[quote=crazee horse;291507]
Who says they weren't hunting on their own land?
The 5 year old didn't have a license, the guardian did.
I'm not sure where you got the notion that they were not hunting their own land, but it's a moot point whether their land or not. The game that I have on my land does not belong to me, it belongs to the state of Michigan and when I hunt my land I am still required to have a license. This took place in Arkansas and I don't know all their rules, but I'd bet one still has to purchase a license even to hunt their land.
I don't know the laws in Arkansas, but where I live the 5 yr old could be ticketed for shooting the animal, because he didn't have a valid license.
sib
December 13th, 2007, 03:35 PM
Only if there is at least one in every room....And it has to hold hats or a coat. :smokin:
I believe that photo is shopped. No shadows, no catch lights...shopped. Also notice the mounts cover the trim around the window...no body would place them like that. Not even a hint of a shadow around the hardwood plaque of the mounts...definitely shopped.
Taurino
December 13th, 2007, 03:35 PM
what the fuck? if i own 50 acres, you better damn well know the government aint interfering in my land unless they know I have a marijuana grove or something like that.
boo_cocky
December 13th, 2007, 03:36 PM
hmmm...I wasn't aware the game wasn't 'yours' if it was on your land...I guess it makes sense, though.
Everything belongs to the state...lol
sib
December 13th, 2007, 03:42 PM
what the fuck? if i own 50 acres, you better damn well know the government aint interfering in my land unless they know I have a marijuana grove or something like that.
Don't know the laws in KY, but I bet it would be similar to MI. Think of it this way, could you make a wild animal your pet, say a bear? Most states would require you to have a permit to have such an animal. Additionally, given the home range of many animals is larger than how man dices up the land, it makes sense, because wild things should have the room to move around.
If I were to build a fence around the 300 acres we have for hunting, I would be required to pay the state for any animals contained in the enclosure.
Again, I don't know the laws in KY, or AK for that matter. I do know the laws in MI, tho.
DaisyDontDuke
December 13th, 2007, 03:49 PM
I believe that photo is shopped. No shadows, no catch lights...shopped. Also notice the mounts cover the trim around the window...no body would place them like that. Not even a hint of a shadow around the hardwood plaque of the mounts...definitely shopped.
True. I think it's photoshoped as well. Although I have seen many houses almost like this. I have two in my living room and my dad has 5 in his. My uncle has about 7 or 8 in his house hanging up. It's a very common thing around where I live. We mount the deer if it is a good size.
We have always ate the meat. Last year we gave a deer away to a family who didn't have much money for groceries. A whole deer puts alot of meat in the freezer, for little money. The dad had been hunting for some meat and had no luck. My husband happened to get a deer and decided to give it to them.
HeyBuddy
December 13th, 2007, 09:01 PM
True. I think it's photoshoped as well. Although I have seen many houses almost like this. I have two in my living room and my dad has 5 in his. My uncle has about 7 or 8 in his house hanging up. It's a very common thing around where I live. We mount the deer if it is a good size.
We have always ate the meat. Last year we gave a deer away to a family who didn't have much money for groceries. A whole deer puts alot of meat in the freezer, for little money. The dad had been hunting for some meat and had no luck. My husband happened to get a deer and decided to give it to them.
That's awesome!
sib
December 14th, 2007, 08:46 AM
True. I think it's photoshoped as well. Although I have seen many houses almost like this. I have two in my living room and my dad has 5 in his. My uncle has about 7 or 8 in his house hanging up. It's a very common thing around where I live. We mount the deer if it is a good size.
We have always ate the meat. Last year we gave a deer away to a family who didn't have much money for groceries. A whole deer puts alot of meat in the freezer, for little money. The dad had been hunting for some meat and had no luck. My husband happened to get a deer and decided to give it to them.
I take two deer a year and the guys that come to our camp usually take some deer, also. We have complete processing facilities complete with electric meat grinder, sausage stuffer, smoker and vacuum sealer. The season is winding down here with muzzleloader, late season archery and then a late season antlerless season to control areas with population problems. I'll be out with the muzzleloader tomorrow, as I have one restricted tag left (at least 4 pts 1" or longer on a side).
Haseknumber39
December 16th, 2007, 06:26 AM
i think its left
if it was my kid...id break its legs and never let it touch a gun ever again
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