Darwin Evolution

[FileCabi.net]

Darwin Evolution (http://www.filecabi.net/video/Darwin_Evolution.html)

[Tilly]

There is no theory of evolution, only a list of animals that Chuck Norris allows to live.

[HeyBuddy]

LMAO @ retard frog squirrel.

Okay, lets see the heated evolution debate. I'm betting that by page 3 someone takes a funny video, starts a serious debate on evolution and before it's over somebody says that Christians are stupid.

If that doesn't happen, then I'll have to draw the conclusion that FC has evolved.

[halo420]

and hes a retard offspring from a human and a panda having butt sex

[Satan's Uncle Ron]

hahahaha!

[scs748]

unfortunately many Americans would describe it that way

they prefer to believe we just appeared out of nowhere

[Tilly]

LMAO @ retard frog squirrel.

Okay, lets see the heated evolution debate. I'm betting that by page 3 someone takes a funny video, starts a serious debate on evolution and before it's over somebody says that Christians are stupid.

If that doesn't happen, then I'll have to draw the conclusion that FC has evolved.

unfortunately many Americans would describe it that way

they prefer to believe we just appeared out of nowhere

Damn, it's still only page 1, too. Sorry, HeyBuddy. It looks like filecabi still has a long way to go before its community outgrows grunting and thumping.

[Proto69]

ROFL LOLOL buttseckz, oh man that was funny as hell.

[Bushga]

lol here comes the religious debate >

[Matador1972]

That was so great...It makes it so easy to understand evolution!! I BELIEVE! Can I hear an AMEN?

[footballbat]

unfortunately many Americans would describe it that way

they prefer to believe we just appeared out of nowhere

Wow, you've taken a break from circumcision, to make an anti-American statement about a funny clip from South Park.

Good to see you branching out.:xyxthumbs:

[chillpill]

I woulda paid more attention in school if my teachers had explained stuff like that. Wouldn't have learned shit but it woulda been entertainin. Buncha BUUULLcrap, retard fish-squirrel baby monkey buttsex. Tooo damn funny.

[Taurino]

and that's why theory of evolution is bull.

lawlz!

[wilcoholic]

Well considering they even made a joke about this on southpark... what I really want to know is are there really Americans who dont believe in evolution theory? And what is the percentage of those who dont believe in this theory

[HeyBuddy]

Well considering they even made a joke about this on southpark... what I really want to know is are there really Americans who dont believe in evolution theory? And what is the percentage of those who dont believe in this theory

Why would anybody even care?

[skunk the disc golfer]

unfortunately many Americans would describe it that way

they prefer to believe we just appeared out of nowhere


Mighty bold statment.

Your ignorance stupefies you. :smokin:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc243/Star_Valkyrie/dumb-Neanderthal.jpg

[chillpill]

Why don't we call it "the fact of evolution" instead of the theory. Just a thought.

[Satan's Uncle Ron]

Why don't we call it "the fact of evolution" instead of the theory. Just a thought.

Because it's a theory made from the fossil record and the layers they are found in.

[Raidenator]

I'm retarded and had buttseckz with a monkey, so I'm progressing evolution!

[evilrobot]

unfortunately many Americans would describe it that way

they prefer to believe we just appeared out of nowhere

well there are 3 popular options, (1) SOMETHING appeared out of no where and evolved into what we know or (2) SOMETHING always existed, with no beginning and eventually evolved into what we know now. (3) a superior being existed with no beginning and created all that you see now... imo they are all equally impossible to imagine, therefor trying to say one person's belief is less intelligent than your own on the grounds of its beginning is just pointless.

"Not everything important can be measured; and not everything that can be measured is important." - Albert Einstein

[HeyBuddy]

Evolution is for monkeys. I'm perfect. Ask anybody. Evolution stops with me.

[Musicman58]

I think i saw this episode it was funny as shit. while on the subject of the video i have always pondered why every biology or science teacher i have had has taught evolution and not believed in the subject themselves? maybe the shitty school board makes a christian teacher teach it so students don't feel that their beliefs are threatened. or something like that has anyone else noticed this trend

[Schmide]

"Judgement Day Intelligent Design on Trial" was an incredible program from NOVA. I bet money it wins some awards next year. I won't give it away but, the ID camp was way unprepared. Who's the monkey now...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/program.html :xyxthumbs:

[rubicks]

And "boys and girls "if you follow that reasoning,That's why sex smells like fish:):(

[MIRAGEone]

lol.. you silly ppl believe in god :P
and i bet you think xmas is about his sons bday xD

[jacksquatdiddly]

Now that's some real comedy in a long time. Actually aliens used special machines to shave the ape out of you.

[lunatik]

HEEEYYY, cavemen are people too, even if they are having buttsex with squirrels and monkeys.
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/485/geicocavemen2wo0.jpg

[Tilly]

Why don't we call it "the fact of evolution" instead of the theory. Just a thought.

Because while scientific evidence greatly supports it, it can't be 100% proven. There are still holes in the theory of evolution that still can't be explained by today's science. We just aren't there yet. I think one example of a hole in the theory is that apes have a different amount of chromosomes than humans do, yet if we directly descended from them, the amount of chromosomes should be the same. I don't remember all the specifics, but there are some things still beyond our understanding.

Who knows, maybe many years down the road, the theory of evolution is found to be false and instead aliens deposit new species on the Earth as part of an intergalactic reality show.

[jammin91]

Why don't we call it "the fact of evolution" instead of the theory. Just a thought.

because its not real. and until they show me a monkey/human hybrid type shit that they say we "evolved" from i will continue not believing it

[ICE420]

:1orglaugh: Feckin Funny shit .

Butt sex with a Squirel, phew that cold be dangerous, we all know how they like to hide nut´s.

[reeltoreel]

because its not real. and until they show me a monkey/human hybrid type shit that they say we "evolved" from i will continue not believing it

Which makes you exactly the sort of person that the South Park cartoon was lampooning.
Fine, dont believe in evolution. But perhaps you should try to understand it anyway, because from what you write ("show me a monkey/human hybrid type shit that they say we "evolved") its clear that you've got no idea of what the theory of evolution says.

Interestingly, I suppose you do not need any proof to accept that some supernatural entity made the first man and then, why not, he made a woman from a spare rib, that the sea opened up to let the Jews escape the pharaoh's army, that a lady gave birth without having sexual intercourse and then she ascended in the sky, that some dude died and then ,three days later, guess what he came back to life... and so on and so on and so on... Ah but that is all in the big book, so its all easy you dont have to bother understanding any theory - you just have to believe it (and pass over the money to the evangelist).

[MIRAGEone]

Which makes you exactly the sort of person that the South Park cartoon was lampooning.
Fine, dont believe in evolution. But perhaps you should try to understand it anyway, because from what you write ("show me a monkey/human hybrid type shit that they say we "evolved") its clear that you've got no idea of what the theory of evolution says.

Interestingly, I suppose you do not need any proof to accept that some supernatural entity made the first man and then, why not, he made a woman from a spare rib, that the sea opened up to let the Jews escape the pharaoh's army, that a lady gave birth without having sexual intercourse and then she ascended in the sky, that some dude died and then ,three days later, guess what he came back to life... and so on and so on and so on... Ah but that is all in the big book, so its all easy you dont have to bother understanding any theory - you just have to believe it (and pass over the money to the evangelist).

amen

[Tilly]

lol, looks like HeyBuddy was right.

[jammin91]

Which makes you exactly the sort of person that the South Park cartoon was lampooning.
Fine, dont believe in evolution. But perhaps you should try to understand it anyway, because from what you write ("show me a monkey/human hybrid type shit that they say we "evolved") its clear that you've got no idea of what the theory of evolution says.

Interestingly, I suppose you do not need any proof to accept that some supernatural entity made the first man and then, why not, he made a woman from a spare rib, that the sea opened up to let the Jews escape the pharaoh's army, that a lady gave birth without having sexual intercourse and then she ascended in the sky, that some dude died and then ,three days later, guess what he came back to life... and so on and so on and so on... Ah but that is all in the big book, so its all easy you dont have to bother understanding any theory - you just have to believe it (and pass over the money to the evangelist).

i under stand the theory it just has to many holes for me to believe in it.

and who said i believed in god? stop jumping to conclusions

[DarwinSaves!]

LMAO @ retard frog squirrel.

Okay, lets see the heated evolution debate. I'm betting that by page 3 someone takes a funny video, starts a serious debate on evolution and before it's over somebody says that Christians are stupid.

If that doesn't happen, then I'll have to draw the conclusion that FC has evolved.

Why would legitimate debate be considered a bad thing and failing to degrade into an interesting debate suggest having evolved?

I myself would consider the "I had butt sex with a retarded fish-monkey-frog once, it was pretty nice" type one-line comments as suggesting a failure to evolve.

[HeyBuddy]

lol, looks like HeyBuddy was right.

I win again :xyxthumbs:

The really funny part of this clip is, that my teacher could have taught evolution this way, or the way that he did, and it wouldn't matter. I've never used evolutionary theory for anything in my lifetime, and I probably never will. It's kind of like knowing how my BlueRay player works. I don't care, as long as I can watch kick ass movies. I don't care how I got opposable thumbs. I got em', and I can gouge out eyeballs with them. :40:

[HeyBuddy]

Why would legitimate debate be considered a bad thing and failing to degrade into an interesting debate suggest having evolved?

I myself would consider the "I had butt sex with a retarded fish-monkey-frog once, it was pretty nice" type one-line comments as suggesting a failure to evolve.

Because you've been here for a year, and if you haven't been in enough debates about this topic by now, then you haven't been paying attention. It's been debated here to the point that, if you haven't changed your mind, you aren't going to. You might as well debate it with a cupholder. It's about as useful. As I stated, it always ends with a bunch of people bashing Christians, which has nothing to do with educating people about evolution.

I'd rather just say, DAMN THAT WAS A FUNNY CLIP!

[DarwinSaves!]

Because while scientific evidence greatly supports it, it can't be 100% proven. There are still holes in the theory of evolution that still can't be explained by today's science. We just aren't there yet. I think one example of a hole in the theory is that apes have a different amount of chromosomes than humans do, yet if we directly descended from them, the amount of chromosomes should be the same. I don't remember all the specifics, but there are some things still beyond our understanding.

Who knows, maybe many years down the road, the theory of evolution is found to be false and instead aliens deposit new species on the Earth as part of an intergalactic reality show.


Actually, the different number of chromosomes problem has been successfully addressed, as have the eyeball, knee, etc. problems that troubled Darwin (one of our chromosomes is a combination of two ape chromosomes, with end portions still in existence at the middle of the combined one). The problems now are only with specifics, what environments caused our departure from other apes, how long ago that separation took place, and how long ago the separate human sub-species/races separated. There's even some data to suggest that we may have been partially aquatic for some period in our past, but that doesn't effect our evolutionary source, and certainly not evolution in general.

Gravity, thermodynamics and the ice ages are also considered theories still, in spite of the level of certainty we have in them.

I once had a church leader describe evolution to me in almost exactly the same manner as the video, and everyone in the Church cheered and couldn't believe anyone would believe such an absurd theory. That was about a week before I left the Christianity for good.

[Big Ozzie]

Obviously, some of the members of FileCabi.net are a product of BUTT SEX!
LMFAO.....Bunch o Fookin Lil Internet Turds! HAHAHAHA

[DarwinSaves!]

Because you've been here for a year, and if you haven't been in enough debates about this topic by now, then you haven't been paying attention. It's been debated here to the point that, if you haven't changed your mind, you aren't going to. You might as well debate it with a cupholder. It's about as useful. As I stated, it always ends with a bunch of people bashing Christians, which has nothing to do with educating people about evolution.

I'd rather just say, DAMN THAT WAS A FUNNY CLIP!

...but debate is a lot more interesting than just snippy remarks. I've debated it here a few times here myself, and if cup holders have only heard evolution described like in the video, then reading a debate somewhere might potentially help them.

SouthPark is definitely the best, so you would do as well telling the cup holders "damn that twas a funny clip" - if someone wasn't clear before that SouthPark is hilarious, then you're not going to change their mind.

If anyone wants to post an argument as to why evolution is wrong (86% of Americans consider themselves to be Christian, and some British folks do as well), then I will enjoy arguing with them (again).

[Big Ozzie]

...but debate is a lot more interesting than just snippy remarks. I've debated it here a few times here myself, and if cup holders have only heard evolution described like in the video, then reading a debate somewhere might potentially help them.

SouthPark is definitely the best, so you would do as well telling the cup holders "damn that twas a funny clip" - if someone wasn't clear before that SouthPark is hilarious, then you're not going to change their mind.

If anyone wants to post an argument as to why evolution is wrong (86% of Americans consider themselves to be Christian, and some British folks do as well), then I will enjoy arguing with them (again).

You may consider me a Christian as I try to follow the teachings of the Christ and the Apostles.
HOWEVER, I also believe in evolution!
I just do not believe that modern man evolved from Apes!
AND since it can not be proven by anyone on this planet, I doubt that I ever will believe it!
It is, as they say a "theory".
I have other "theories" that I believe in and Man evolving from Apes is not one of them!

[footballbat]

Gravity, thermodynamics and the ice ages are also considered theories still, in spite of the level of certainty we have in them.

Gravity and thermodynamics are considered Laws of Nature, not theories. No one disputes that the ice ages occurred, although theories abound as to what caused them.

I once had a church leader describe evolution to me in almost exactly the same manner as the video, and everyone in the Church cheered and couldn't believe anyone would believe such an absurd theory. That was about a week before I left the Christianity for good.

Here's the Christian bashing HB was referring to.

You may consider me a Christian as I try to follow the teachings of the Christ and the Apostles.
HOWEVER, I also believe in evolution!
I just do not believe that modern man evolved from Apes!
AND since it can not be proven by anyone on this planet, I doubt that I ever will believe it!
It is, as they say a "theory".
I have other "theories" that I believe in and Man evolving from Apes is not one of them!

^^^^
What he said.

Apes receive 24 chromosomes from each parent. Humans receive 23, since, in theory, two of the chromosomes present in the apes have been fused together.

24 is not a prime number, but 23 is. I don't really know if that means anything, I just thought I'd throw that out there.

[producerflie]

Which makes you exactly the sort of person that the South Park cartoon was lampooning.
Fine, dont believe in evolution. But perhaps you should try to understand it anyway, because from what you write ("show me a monkey/human hybrid type shit that they say we "evolved") its clear that you've got no idea of what the theory of evolution says.

Interestingly, I suppose you do not need any proof to accept that some supernatural entity made the first man and then, why not, he made a woman from a spare rib, that the sea opened up to let the Jews escape the pharaoh's army, that a lady gave birth without having sexual intercourse and then she ascended in the sky, that some dude died and then ,three days later, guess what he came back to life... and so on and so on and so on... Ah but that is all in the big book, so its all easy you dont have to bother understanding any theory - you just have to believe it (and pass over the money to the evangelist).

That brought a tear to my eye. :xyxthumbs:

[DarwinSaves!]

Gravity and thermodynamics are considered Laws of Nature, not theories. No one disputes that the ice ages occurred, although theories abound as to what caused them.

The laws of thermodynamics are viewed as natural laws, entropy, temperature differentials, etc, but the theory that views heat as the total effect of movements of individual atoms is considered a theory. Likewise with Gravity.

Here's the Christian bashing HB was referring to.

That was an anecdote. It seemed to be implied that no one existed anymore who didn't believe in evolution, and I only pointed out that I knew of some who didn't, eg. Christians. There was no bashing involved.


^^^^
What he said.

Apes receive 24 chromosomes from each parent. Humans receive 23, since, in theory, two of the chromosomes present in the apes have been fused together.

24 is not a prime number, but 23 is. I don't really know if that means anything, I just thought I'd throw that out there.

Still more amazing is that 24 divides evenly into 96 while 23 doesn't. :)

[DarwinSaves!]

You may consider me a Christian as I try to follow the teachings of the Christ and the Apostles.
HOWEVER, I also believe in evolution!
I just do not believe that modern man evolved from Apes!
AND since it can not be proven by anyone on this planet, I doubt that I ever will believe it!
It is, as they say a "theory".
I have other "theories" that I believe in and Man evolving from Apes is not one of them!

Well, apes and man have eyes that face forward instead of to the sides in spite of being generally herbavores because they had to judge distances to the next trees, we have 98% of our genes are common between apes and man (most of the DNA structure is ignored, so small differences are significant), and, like apes, vitamin C is a vitamin for us, whereas for all but a couple other animals it's just another biological chemical that they produce themselves like bile or enzymes.

There's just too much in common between us to say we aren't related. There are admittedly, some data that lend themselves to assisted evolution, but those data only apply to some of us and aren't spoken of in polite company, if you catch my drift, so I can't really say much. I'm sure you can find the information on the internet if you look a bit. The great Thor Heyerdahl mentions it in some of his work...

I have another theory myself; that dinosaurs are thin at one end, much, much thicker in the middle and then thin again at the far end.

[Tilly]

Actually, the different number of chromosomes problem has been successfully addressed, as have the eyeball, knee, etc. problems that troubled Darwin (one of our chromosomes is a combination of two ape chromosomes, with end portions still in existence at the middle of the combined one).

So what's the answer to those problems?

[Tilly]

Because you've been here for a year, and if you haven't been in enough debates about this topic by now, then you haven't been paying attention. It's been debated here to the point that, if you haven't changed your mind, you aren't going to. You might as well debate it with a cupholder. It's about as useful. As I stated, it always ends with a bunch of people bashing Christians, which has nothing to do with educating people about evolution.

I'd rather just say, DAMN THAT WAS A FUNNY CLIP!

Yeah, I definitely have to agree with HB on this one. Yeah, intelligent debate is fine, but with filecabi....actually, I would have to say across the ENTIRE INTERNET, debates over evolution almost always take a retarded turn. People try to turn the argument into something like "you're either educated, or you're a christian, LOLZ ROFLS SUX0rZ!!!!" Take this fine example here:

unfortunately many Americans would describe it that way

they prefer to believe we just appeared out of nowhere

[jojopaper]

Because while scientific evidence greatly supports it, it can't be 100% proven. There are still holes in the theory of evolution that still can't be explained by today's science. We just aren't there yet. I think one example of a hole in the theory is that apes have a different amount of chromosomes than humans do, yet if we directly descended from them, the amount of chromosomes should be the same. I don't remember all the specifics, but there are some things still beyond our understanding.

Who knows, maybe many years down the road, the theory of evolution is found to be false and instead aliens deposit new species on the Earth as part of an intergalactic reality show.


so people with down syndrome that have 47 chromosomes are in the middle of apes and humans, they are a totally different species? i dont think so

[jammin91]

so people with down syndrome that have 47 chromosomes are in the middle of apes and humans, they are a totally different species? i dont think so

so wait this would mean that we are apes with down syndrome?

[HeyBuddy]

...but debate is a lot more interesting than just snippy remarks. I've debated it here a few times here myself, and if cup holders have only heard evolution described like in the video, then reading a debate somewhere might potentially help them.

SouthPark is definitely the best, so you would do as well telling the cup holders "damn that twas a funny clip" - if someone wasn't clear before that SouthPark is hilarious, then you're not going to change their mind.

If anyone wants to post an argument as to why evolution is wrong (86% of Americans consider themselves to be Christian, and some British folks do as well), then I will enjoy arguing with them (again).


I am Christian, and believe in evolution. Argue until your blue in the face. Have fun.

[footballbat]

The laws of thermodynamics are viewed as natural laws, entropy, temperature differentials, etc, but the theory that views heat as the total effect of movements of individual atoms is considered a theory. Likewise with Gravity.

That may be true of thermodynamics, but would you care to expand upon how gravity is still a theory. Whatever you come up with, though, it still doesn't change the fact that there is no Law of Evolution.

That was an anecdote. It seemed to be implied that no one existed anymore who didn't believe in evolution, and I only pointed out that I knew of some who didn't, eg. Christians. There was no bashing involved.

Perhaps, but you are singling out Christianity. BTW, I believe that natural selection is the process by which we arrived at our present state. I don't think that we evolved from apes, though.

Still more amazing is that 24 divides evenly into 96 while 23 doesn't. :)

How is that amazing. That's just math. 24 can also be evenly divided by 2, 3, 8 and 12. 23 can not be evenly divided.

[Matador1972]

God=7

[JooX]

I think the video was actually spot on... I meet lots of people who seem to be monkey squirell fish retards.

Oh... something about numbers and laws of stuff and religion and the like.
And whatever you think I will agree with some points and not agree on others until everyone gets bored and laughs at the next funny clip posted.

[JooX]

And "boys and girls "if you follow that reasoning,That's why sex smells like fish:):(


:1orglaugh: :xyxthumbs:
I think you may be onto something Dr.

Or on something.

[MIRAGEone]

Yeah, I definitely have to agree with HB on this one. Yeah, intelligent debate is fine, but with filecabi....actually, I would have to say across the ENTIRE INTERNET, debates over evolution almost always take a retarded turn. People try to turn the argument into something like "you're either educated, or you're a christian, LOLZ ROFLS SUX0rZ!!!!" Take this fine example here:

hahaha that made me laugh
LOLZ ROFLS SUX0rZ!!!!

[Tilly]

so people with down syndrome that have 47 chromosomes are in the middle of apes and humans, they are a totally different species? i dont think so

Sure, dude. Whatever you want. :rolleyes:

[paulbrown49]

there is nothing wrong with buttsex between a monkey and a squirrel!

[madcat]

This was hilarious. I fell off of my chair laughing so hard.

Southpark writers are great.

[Big Ozzie]

You may consider me a Christian as I try to follow the teachings of the Christ and the Apostles.
HOWEVER, I also believe in evolution!
I just do not believe that modern man evolved from Apes!
AND since it can not be proven by anyone on this planet, I doubt that I ever will believe it!
It is, as they say a "theory".
I have other "theories" that I believe in and Man evolving from Apes is not one of them!

Well, apes and man have eyes that face forward instead of to the sides in spite of being generally herbavores because they had to judge distances to the next trees, we have 98% of our genes are common between apes and man (most of the DNA structure is ignored, so small differences are significant), and, like apes, vitamin C is a vitamin for us, whereas for all but a couple other animals it's just another biological chemical that they produce themselves like bile or enzymes.

There's just too much in common between us to say we aren't related. There are admittedly, some data that lend themselves to assisted evolution, but those data only apply to some of us and aren't spoken of in polite company, if you catch my drift, so I can't really say much. I'm sure you can find the information on the internet if you look a bit. The great Thor Heyerdahl mentions it in some of his work...

I have another theory myself; that dinosaurs are thin at one end, much, much thicker in the middle and then thin again at the far end.

You are posting the words of an uneducated fool who has gone through life with blinders on!
There are many animals on this planet that have eyes placed in the front of the skull.
As a general rule, if the eyes are in the front, they are predators or hunters...if on the side, they are the herbivores or the prey.
Birds of Prey such as Owls, Eagles and Hawks have eyes that face forward allowing them to have Binocular vision and depth perception. Whereas birds that are a food source such as Doves, Pheasants and Quail (to name a few) have their eyes on the side to allow them to see predators from all sides.
Many predators are omnivores, or they will eat either meat or vegetation...Man, some Bears and Apes. Some that have their eyes in the front are strictly vegetarian, such as the Panda and Koala.
Pigs and Hogs have their eyes on the side and are omnivores. In fact, they will kill and eat their prey, but generally are too slow to do so!
Many of your scavengers eat both meat and vegetation and some are even predators, such as Hyenas, Foxes, Coyotes, Skunks and Raccoons to name a few.
Rodents such as Rats and Mice are considered to be vegetarian, yet they commit cannibalism!
The placement of the eyes in the front of the skull was NOT so man or apes could leap from tree to tree. Some Apes never go into trees!
Putting the eyes in the front allows the animal to have depth perception in order to attack and pounce on something. What would a Lions kill ratio be if he did not know how far to leap?
What about and Eagle? If they did not have depth perception they would either miss totally or slam into the ground when trying to catch a Rabbit!
Animals such as Horses, Cows and Deer do not have real depth perception. Because of the placement of their eyes, they actually loose all sense of depth when they get close to something and rely on the sense of smell to zero in on it.
That is why so Horses stop suddenly when jumping fences or barrels in competition. They actually have to be trained to overcome the fear that they have when they loose the perspective of how high to jump!

As far as DNA is concerned...we share many of the same chromosomes that are found in many animals in the animal kingdom. But that does not mean that we are related. It just means that these chromosome factors were the ones that were best suited to survive on this planet!

I would suggest that you continue with as well as broaden your education before you argue points on the Internet!

[Bix]

You are posting the words of an uneducated fool who has gone through life with blinders on!
There are many animals on this planet that have eyes placed in the front of the skull.
As a general rule, if the eyes are in the front, they are predators or hunters...if on the side, they are the herbivores or the prey.
Birds of Prey such as Owls, Eagles and Hawks have eyes that face forward allowing them to have Binocular vision and depth perception. Whereas birds that are a food source such as Doves, Pheasants and Quail (to name a few) have their eyes on the side to allow them to see predators from all sides.
Many predators are omnivores, or they will eat either meat or vegetation...Man, some Bears and Apes. Some that have their eyes in the front are strictly vegetarian, such as the Panda and Koala.
Pigs and Hogs have their eyes on the side and are omnivores. In fact, they will kill and eat their prey, but generally are too slow to do so!
Many of your scavengers eat both meat and vegetation and some are even predators, such as Hyenas, Foxes, Coyotes, Skunks and Raccoons to name a few.
Rodents such as Rats and Mice are considered to be vegetarian, yet they commit cannibalism!
The placement of the eyes in the front of the skull was NOT so man or apes could leap from tree to tree. Some Apes never go into trees!
Putting the eyes in the front allows the animal to have depth perception in order to attack and pounce on something. What would a Lions kill ratio be if he did not know how far to leap?
What about and Eagle? If they did not have depth perception they would either miss totally or slam into the ground when trying to catch a Rabbit!
Animals such as Horses, Cows and Deer do not have real depth perception. Because of the placement of their eyes, they actually loose all sense of depth when they get close to something and rely on the sense of smell to zero in on it.
That is why so Horses stop suddenly when jumping fences or barrels in competition. They actually have to be trained to overcome the fear that they have when they loose the perspective of how high to jump!

As far as DNA is concerned...we share many of the same chromosomes that are found in many animals in the animal kingdom. But that does not mean that we are related. It just means that these chromosome factors were the ones that were best suited to survive on this planet!

I would suggest that you continue with as well as broaden your education before you argue points on the Internet!

I suggest that you follow your own advice, given that a quick search confirmed that 99% of your posts on any remotely scholarly topic are absolute horseshit.
Including this one.
Keep following the teachings of christ and the apostles (alongside some tuition in spelling I suggest), but bear in mind that the theory of evolution does not say that man descends from apes, it never did and never will. If you care to know what it says, do bother to read Darwin who is very approachable for a 19th century author or a contemporary book such as The Selfish Gene, which nails the explanation in a simple and readable manner.
And please use a smaller font, your posts take entire pages.

[ICE420]

I have a friend, he´s from Nigeria and is a devout Christian, me being Atheist , we have some very interesting discussions, a few weeks ago he asked me if I belive in evolution, I told him I did, he said WHAT??? you REALLY belive that we came from Monkeys? I knew then that this debate would go nowhere.

We exchanged views during the course of the day, but this statment of his was the end of the chat, as after this there was nothing more to say.

He said " If God himself appeared before me and said Evolution was fact, I would still NOT belive it".

What more could I say?

[ShouldIbuyacat]

Intelligent people understand evolution. Normal people find religion.

[Big Ozzie]

I suggest that you follow your own advice, given that a quick search confirmed that 99% of your posts on any remotely scholarly topic are absolute horseshit.
Including this one.
Keep following the teachings of christ and the apostles (alongside some tuition in spelling I suggest), but bear in mind that the theory of evolution does not say that man descends from apes, it never did and never will. If you care to know what it says, do bother to read Darwin who is very approachable for a 19th century author or a contemporary book such as The Selfish Gene, which nails the explanation in a simple and readable manner.
And please use a smaller font, your posts take entire pages.

WOW! "A quick search confirmed that 99%" of my posts are "absolute Horseshit"!
Who the Fuck are you, the Forum Super Hero? You checked over 10,000 of my posts at FileCabi.net alone, not counting the other forums that I post at?
Damn, you ARE good!
Well I just reviewed all 27 (at this time) of your posts and found hardly anything to be construed as worthwhile reading!
And WHERE did I state that the Theory of Evolution stated that man evolved from Apes? I stated that I do not believe that!
And YES, I try to follow the teachings of the Christ, as well as Abraham, the Dali Lama and Gandhi. It is all good.
I post with this style font because I like the way it looks...
and I use the size because I can remove my eyeglasses to do it!
Did I make a spelling mistake? An error in Grammar?
hmmmmm, let's see....yes I am human, I do Bleed.
But No, I just double checked my posts in this thread and put them against spell check...NO MISTAKES FOUND!
What are you now, the Forum spell checker? hahahaha
Holy Jesus.....grow the fuck up!

[footballbat]

He said " If God himself appeared before me and said Evolution was fact, I would still NOT belive it".

What more could I say?

Then why does he believe in God? I know if God appeared before me, and said that purple was actually khaki, or that "may I mumbo dog face to the banana patch" was the proper way to ask to go to the bathroom, I'm going with what He says.

[jammin91]

WOW! "A quick search confirmed that 99%" of my posts are "absolute Horseshit"!
Who the Fuck are you, the Forum Super Hero? You checked over 10,000 of my posts at FileCabi.net alone, not counting the other forums that I post at?
Damn, you ARE good!
Well I just reviewed all 27 (at this time) of your posts and found hardly anything to be construed as worthwhile reading!
And WHERE did I state that the Theory of Evolution stated that man evolved from Apes? I stated that I do not believe that!
And YES, I try to follow the teachings of the Christ, as well as Abraham, the Dali Lama and Gandhi. It is all good.
I post with this style font because I like the way it looks...
and I use the size because I can remove my eyeglasses to do it!
Did I make a spelling mistake? An error in Grammar?
hmmmmm, let's see....yes I am human, I do Bleed.
But No, I just double checked my posts in this thread and put them against spell check...NO MISTAKES FOUND!
What are you now, the Forum spell checker? hahahaha
Holy Jesus.....grow the fuck up!

sounds like there is an echo is in hear ;)

[PlaneswalkerX]

HAHAH, Big O just schooled some kid.

[Nilez]

Because while scientific evidence greatly supports it, it can't be 100% proven. There are still holes in the theory of evolution that still can't be explained by today's science. We just aren't there yet. I think one example of a hole in the theory is that apes have a different amount of chromosomes than humans do, yet if we directly descended from them, the amount of chromosomes should be the same. I don't remember all the specifics, but there are some things still beyond our understanding.



Who knows, maybe many years down the road, the theory of evolution is found to be false and instead aliens deposit new species on the Earth as part of an intergalactic reality show.

No theory ever stated that Humans evolved from Apes. The theory is that Apes and Humans evolved from a common ancestor.
As for your second statement, Arthur C. Clarke wrote a good science fiction novel about this: 2001: A Space Oddysey, 40 years ago.

[MIRAGEone]

your all morons
adam was made from spit and dirt (if i remember right)
and eve was made from adams rib

they made babies.. their babies made babies.. their babies babies made babies.. and so on

no wonder you all cant figure it out.. bloody inbred retards

[Maverick_9112]

And "boys and girls "if you follow that reasoning,That's why sex smells like fish:):(

Sex smells like fish????
Huh thats funny, I'm a Meat Clerk at a grocery store and deal with fish every day(such as Haddock, Salmon, Trout, Sole, Cod, Perch, Crab, Lobster, Mussels, and Smelts), sometimes even rottens ones and after a long day of work when I come home and have sex with my girlfriend it doesn't smell anything like fish. Maybe thats because she has showers regularly unlike the women you get off the street...................Just a thought though.

[Tilly]

No theory ever stated that Humans evolved from Apes. The theory is that Apes and Humans evolved from a common ancestor.
As for your second statement, Arthur C. Clarke wrote a good science fiction novel about this: 2001: A Space Oddysey, 40 years ago.

Like I said, I don't remember all the specifics. I only cited an example of one of the holes in the theory. It still kind of applies, because chromosomes should still be similar. I'm not an expert, but I do know that it's still theory and not accepted as complete fact.

As for your second statement, I know. That was the reference.

[DarwinSaves!]

You are posting the words of an uneducated fool who has gone through life with blinders on!
There are many animals on this planet that have eyes placed in the front of the skull.
As a general rule, if the eyes are in the front, they are predators or hunters...if on the side, they are the herbivores or the prey.
Birds of Prey such as Owls, Eagles and Hawks have eyes that face forward allowing them to have Binocular vision and depth perception. Whereas birds that are a food source such as Doves, Pheasants and Quail (to name a few) have their eyes on the side to allow them to see predators from all sides.
Many predators are omnivores, or they will eat either meat or vegetation...Man, some Bears and Apes. Some that have their eyes in the front are strictly vegetarian, such as the Panda and Koala.
Pigs and Hogs have their eyes on the side and are omnivores. In fact, they will kill and eat their prey, but generally are too slow to do so!
Many of your scavengers eat both meat and vegetation and some are even predators, such as Hyenas, Foxes, Coyotes, Skunks and Raccoons to name a few.
Rodents such as Rats and Mice are considered to be vegetarian, yet they commit cannibalism!
The placement of the eyes in the front of the skull was NOT so man or apes could leap from tree to tree. Some Apes never go into trees!
Putting the eyes in the front allows the animal to have depth perception in order to attack and pounce on something. What would a Lions kill ratio be if he did not know how far to leap?
What about and Eagle? If they did not have depth perception they would either miss totally or slam into the ground when trying to catch a Rabbit!
Animals such as Horses, Cows and Deer do not have real depth perception. Because of the placement of their eyes, they actually loose all sense of depth when they get close to something and rely on the sense of smell to zero in on it.
That is why so Horses stop suddenly when jumping fences or barrels in competition. They actually have to be trained to overcome the fear that they have when they loose the perspective of how high to jump!

As far as DNA is concerned...we share many of the same chromosomes that are found in many animals in the animal kingdom. But that does not mean that we are related. It just means that these chromosome factors were the ones that were best suited to survive on this planet!

I would suggest that you continue with as well as broaden your education before you argue points on the Internet!

If you would like me to teach you about evolution, then please be less rude in the future. Such rudeness is uncalled for, and obviously not going to help you.

Although some apes, including man, never go into trees, the forward-facing eyes are nonetheless an adaptation to tree dwelling. The adaptation took place long ago as lemur-like creatures, and carried forward. Again, the DNA similarities, key traits like vitamin C and grasping fingers, and the lack of suitable alternatives pretty much nail down apes as our evolutionary ancestors.

It's interesting to note, too, that apes have ocular nerve connections that allow borderlines between light and dark areas, to be highlighted, which humans have of course (and not any of the long list of other creatures you mention). Again, that is an adaptation to living in trees, whether we or other apes live permanently in them now or not, our common ancestors did and needed to see and judge the distance to the next limb. That wouldn't be a useful adaptation for a carnivore.

What few carnivores have similar ocular adaptations have a sensitivity to movement, not borders, so that they can detect moving prey. By the way, when you watch Jurassic Park next time and see that bit about the tyrannosaurus not being able to see the paleontologist if he doesn't move, keep in mind that a stationary paleontologist would be only as hard for a carnivore to see as a fuzzy cloud is for you to see with your border sensitive eyes.

Leaving eye placement alone, given that we cannot produce vitamin C ourselves but need to get it from our diet, a trait we didn't develop as humans, our choices for potential evolutionary ancestors are the kangaroo, the duck-billed platypus, the ape. Does one of those stand out for you as a candidate?

[DarwinSaves!]

That may be true of thermodynamics, but would you care to expand upon how gravity is still a theory. Whatever you come up with, though, it still doesn't change the fact that there is no Law of Evolution.

Sure. There are two accepted theories of gravitation, General Relativity, which is largely deprecated nowadays, but which views gravity as the result of a bending of space-time, and a quantum dynamics based one which views it as the result of the exchange of gravitons similar to the exchange of photons that gives rise to electromagnetism.

I was only explaining why evolution is referred to as a theory, not by any means claiming it was a natural law.

Perhaps, but you are singling out Christianity. BTW, I believe that natural selection is the process by which we arrived at our present state. I don't think that we evolved from apes, though.

The anecdote was about the people at my Christian church, not singling out Christianity. I know enough about the other major religions not to have been caught dead in one of their mosques/synagogues/shrines in the first place. :) <-- Smiley indicates a joke or exageration

How is that amazing. That's just math. 24 can also be evenly divided by 2, 3, 8 and 12. 23 can not be evenly divided.

Watch for smileys. That 23 is prime and 24 not is also just math, and in no more relevant to evolution. The smileys are something I've developed to indicate when I'm not being serious.

[aznlilboiz]

priceless

[matango]

I have a friend, he´s from Nigeria and is a devout Christian, me being Atheist , we have some very interesting discussions, a few weeks ago he asked me if I belive in evolution, I told him I did, he said WHAT??? you REALLY belive that we came from Monkeys? I knew then that this debate would go nowhere.

We exchanged views during the course of the day, but this statment of his was the end of the chat, as after this there was nothing more to say.

He said " If God himself appeared before me and said Evolution was fact, I would still NOT belive it".

What more could I say?

That he is a moron, perhaps?

[artgod33]

Sex smells like fish????
Huh thats funny, I'm a Meat Clerk at a grocery store and deal with fish every day(such as Haddock, Salmon, Trout, Sole, Cod, Perch, Crab, Lobster, Mussels, and Smelts), sometimes even rottens ones and after a long day of work when I come home and have sex with my girlfriend it doesn't smell anything like fish. Maybe thats because she has showers regularly unlike the women you get off the street...................Just a thought though.


:rolleyes: I appreciate you naming differnt types of fish for us... I had no idea what type of product you worked with until you explained further.

[antifreeze]

One of those butt fucked retarded mutants must be responsible for those STUPID RETARDED POP UP ADS.

[Matador1972]

your all morons
adam was made from spit and dirt (if i remember right)
and eve was made from adams rib

they made babies.. their babies made babies.. their babies babies made babies.. and so on

no wonder you all cant figure it out.. bloody inbred retards

The way I look at it being inbred sure beats having ancestors that had to keep screwing animals till their kids kept getting more and more human...but thats just me

[Big Ozzie]

your all morons
adam was made from spit and dirt (if i remember right)
and eve was made from adams rib

they made babies.. their babies made babies.. their babies babies made babies.. and so on

no wonder you all cant figure it out.. bloody inbred retards

Now even I am confused....
If God made Adam from the Dust of the Earth...
then he made Eve from one of Adams ribs (or so it is told)
then Adam and Eve had babies named Cain and Abel...
then Cain slew Abel....
Where did the rest of the people on Earth come from?
Who did Cain conceive children with..........Eve? :eek7:
Did Adam and Eve have any Daughters?
Did the Daughters just have Buttsex like good little Catholic girls, so that they would stay virgins?
Who did they have sex with....their brother or their father?
BOTH? A menage a trois?

[Monstermash]

Evolution is an interesting theory, it explains a lot but not everything. How do turtles when their born know they have to go into the sea. How to pigeons know where to go. It just seems that evolution does not explain everything and what causes evolution? I don't think its just natural selection, there seems to be almost a conscousness (I Know I spelt that wrong sorry) behind it. At what point does a creature start to evolve into a different kind of animal and what triggers it? I think that its possible man evolved from apes but why are apes still around then and will they evolve into humans in time or into something else and is there any evidence to suggest that evolution is happening at this moment in time, can it be measured by todays technology? Just wondering :)

[jammin91]

if evolution was real why aren't things still evolving????

[Monstermash]

Now even I am confused....
If God made Adam from the Dust of the Earth...
then he made Eve from one of Adams ribs (or so it is told)
then Adam and Eve had babies named Cain and Abel...
then Cain slew Abel....
Where did the rest of the people on Earth come from?
Who did Cain conceive children with..........Eve? :eek7:
Did Adam and Eve have any Daughters?
Did the Daughters just have Buttsex like good little Catholic girls, so that they would stay virgins?
Who did they have sex with....their brother or their father?
BOTH? A menage a trois?

Hi Big Oz.

The Adam and Eve thing in the bible does my head in. How can one man and one woman result in such a huge population. There would have to be incest involved at a fairly drastic scale (they would have to be shagging like bunny rabbits). The Earth was made in 7 days, how could that happen? Did people a long time ago just believed what the bible told them and did'nt question it. The bible just seems to produce more questions then answers.

I believe its possible that God or some supreme being exists, because there is strange phenomena that exists that is not explained by science. The big bang is confusing because something must have existed before that to cause it. If God exists who created God? If God exists why does he allow so much bad stuff to happen and not stop it. He could stop murders, disasters, people of dieing from cancer etc. etc.

[jammin91]

maybe we are all just a failed experiment of some other life form in a a distant galaxy

[Monstermash]

maybe we are all just a failed experiment of some other life form in a a distant galaxy

Maybe you're right. We are the rejected :xyxthumbs:

[Marcodne]

And we all gonna die 21th december 2012

[JooX]

Maybe you're right. We are the rejected :xyxthumbs:

And the uber rejected end up here in file cabi?
No, that would be why Break was created. :xyxthumbs:

Let me sum it up thusly... we are here now, it doesn't matter where we come from or how we got here. All that matters is I have a better car than my neighbour. :angry-smiley-056:

Seriously thought, why question it at all? I don't care if we all came about because some alien ate a bad intergalactic space curry and had to make a quick pit stop here, and that curry waste was the beginning of life as we know it. I dont need to know that to carry on with my life, and I dont need to believe it to justify my life choices either.

I'm here now, I have plenty of great friends and family, Im mostly healthy, wealthy and wise (compared to some chap in north Africa)... and I enjoy each day as it comes.

We shouldn't have to justify our existence so long as we don't piss in anyone else's pool... it's the pursuit of all that crap which breeds hate and prejudice, causing conflict after conflict, when if we just accepted the fact that:- "we are here for a good time, not a long time" we might be alright.

Not seriously though... My car is way cooler than my neighbours, and it has those things that spin... tyres, and an exhaust removal system that i totally didnt stick a tin-can on so it sounds the equivilent of putting a playing card in the spokes of your bicycle.:1bluewinky:

[Maverick_9112]

And the uber rejected end up here in file cabi?
No, that would be why Break was created. :xyxthumbs:

Let me sum it up thusly... we are here now, it doesn't matter where we come from or how we got here. All that matters is I have a better car than my neighbour. :angry-smiley-056:

Seriously thought, why question it at all? I don't care if we all came about because some alien ate a bad intergalactic space curry and had to make a quick pit stop here, and that curry waste was the beginning of life as we know it. I dont need to know that to carry on with my life, and I dont need to believe it to justify my life choices either.

I'm here now, I have plenty of great friends and family, Im mostly healthy, wealthy and wise (compared to some chap in north Africa)... and I enjoy each day as it comes.

We shouldn't have to justify our existence so long as we don't piss in anyone else's pool... it's the pursuit of all that crap which breeds hate and prejudice, causing conflict after conflict, when if we just accepted the fact that:- "we are here for a good time, not a long time" we might be alright.

Not seriously though... My car is way cooler than my neighbours, and it has those things that spin... tyres, and an exhaust removal system that i totally didnt stick a tin-can on so it sounds the equivilent of putting a playing card in the spokes of your bicycle.:1bluewinky:

I totally agree, why bother wasting our lives asking all these questions. Live life to the fullest. People have been asking the question of were we came from for years and they never figured it out and then they died, does that sound like a great way to live your life?

[brownbearclan]

Lol one of my favorite South Park clips! So...we're all a bunch of retarded monkey frog fish people lol.

[Tilly]

if evolution was real why aren't things still evolving????

What makes you think that things aren't still evolving?

[DarwinSaves!]

Evolution is an interesting theory, it explains a lot but not everything. How do turtles when their born know they have to go into the sea. How to pigeons know where to go. It just seems that evolution does not explain everything and what causes evolution? I don't think its just natural selection, there seems to be almost a conscousness (I Know I spelt that wrong sorry) behind it. At what point does a creature start to evolve into a different kind of animal and what triggers it? I think that its possible man evolved from apes but why are apes still around then and will they evolve into humans in time or into something else and is there any evidence to suggest that evolution is happening at this moment in time, can it be measured by todays technology? Just wondering :)

Evolution is the combined result of both natural selection and genetic mutation. In order to see something evolve, there has to be a changed selection stimulus, like a new predator moving into an area, and time for a beneficial change to take place. Another changed stimulus is when a group begins to take advantage of another food source such as moving into another location. If some iguanas in a group begin eating seaweed, for instance, while the others continue to eat just the land plants, then over time traits that better server swimming out to seaweed would be selected and eventually two species emerge, the unchanged or less-changed one that continues to enjoy land plants, and the new one that has evolved up to take advantage of seaweed. You therefore have evolution but continue to have the source species relatively unchanged, i.e. apes still around.

New species are evolving at all times, but so slowly it isn't generally noticeable. In order to be noticed, the period between generations has to be very small relative to our own and mutations frequent, such as is the viruses. The HIV virus has developed several new strains in the last few decades, for instance.

(By the way, at least firefox browsers, if you right click on a misspelled word and a pop-up will appear suggesting correct spellings for words it thinks you've misspelled, like "conscousness".)

[rubicks]

well no matter what the sun will rise tomorrow in the am i will leave for work and the world will still rotate slowly HAPPY NEW YEAR all:):)

[mind_hacker]

World according ti South Park you gotta love it...lol.

[Lief]

unfortunately many Americans would describe it that way

they prefer to believe we just appeared out of nowhere

Unfortunately many people in the world would describe it that way moron. Not just Americans.

[Lief]

if evolution was real why aren't things still evolving????

Is real and people are still evolving. Cells without an immunity to a virus die other cells with the immunity to the virus live on to reproduce creating a body with immunity to a virus thats how natural selection works on a cellular level. Its not like if someone needs to reach a shelf their arm will grow it doesn't work on that scale.
On a bigger scale over hundreds of thousands of years that may work like with giraffes (shorter necked animals ate all the leaves at low levels so the giraffes with longer necks survived to pass on their genetic trait of long necks thus creating the giraffes that we now know.) that's natural selection in a nutshell.

[Lief]

Hilarious video though

[MIRAGEone]

And the uber rejected end up here in file cabi?
No, that would be why Break was created. :xyxthumbs:

Let me sum it up thusly... we are here now, it doesn't matter where we come from or how we got here. All that matters is I have a better car than my neighbour. :angry-smiley-056:

Seriously thought, why question it at all? I don't care if we all came about because some alien ate a bad intergalactic space curry and had to make a quick pit stop here, and that curry waste was the beginning of life as we know it. I dont need to know that to carry on with my life, and I dont need to believe it to justify my life choices either.

I'm here now, I have plenty of great friends and family, Im mostly healthy, wealthy and wise (compared to some chap in north Africa)... and I enjoy each day as it comes.

We shouldn't have to justify our existence so long as we don't piss in anyone else's pool... it's the pursuit of all that crap which breeds hate and prejudice, causing conflict after conflict, when if we just accepted the fact that:- "we are here for a good time, not a long time" we might be alright.

Not seriously though... My car is way cooler than my neighbours, and it has those things that spin... tyres, and an exhaust removal system that i totally didnt stick a tin-can on so it sounds the equivilent of putting a playing card in the spokes of your bicycle.:1bluewinky:

who cares if someone stole your car
the fact is.. you no longer have your car ?

we like to question it simply because we can..
curiosity killed the cat.. but wondering where we came from doesnt harm us..
we can only grow so much physically.. but intellectually we have no limits..
while we're alive.. why not try and figure out.. how and why we came to be..

and the pursuit of answers to lifes big questions doesnt breed hate. its ppl holding onto what they believe are the answers.. and taking such a serious stand against opposing opinions

how is it nonreligious can consider the possibility of a god
but the religious cant consider the possibility that there might not be

baa-aa-a-aa

[MIRAGEone]

The way I look at it being inbred sure beats having ancestors that had to keep screwing animals till their kids kept getting more and more human...but thats just me

course you think being inbred is better
apparently.. your happy being inbred :1orglaugh:

[JooX]

who cares if someone stole your car
the fact is.. you no longer have your car ?

we like to question it simply because we can..
curiosity killed the cat.. but wondering where we came from doesnt harm us..
we can only grow so much physically.. but intellectually we have no limits..
while we're alive.. why not try and figure out.. how and why we came to be..

and the pursuit of answers to life's big questions doesn't breed hate. its ppl holding onto what they believe are the answers.. and taking such a serious stand against opposing opinions

how is it nonreligious can consider the possibility of a god
but the religious cant consider the possibility that there might not be

baa-aa-a-aa


I agree, although my car wasn't stolen, and I have no problem with debating the issue... any issue.

My point was that it shouldn't matter how we came to be at all.
Live and enjoy what you have, and if a part of that is to debate if someone is the actual missing link that ties an evolutionary theory together because they really are the mangina love seed of a squirrel frog... so be it.

The facts of how we came to be what we are will only expand our understanding of our past... it will not change who we are as individuals right now. (Unless you cant stand the idea of being related to Kermit's second cousins squirrel frog sister)

*Goes to watch the Panda cubs kick each others asses again*

[BleedingHeart23]

Sounds just about right.