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FileCabi.net
August 5th, 2008, 06:49 AM
Instructor demonstrates a Pressure Point Knockout (http://www.filecabi.net/video/a6004d07888.html)

Unregistered
August 5th, 2008, 07:34 AM
it's bullshit

Locklear
August 5th, 2008, 07:56 AM
First, bitches.

mparryuk52
August 5th, 2008, 08:04 AM
SECOND - FAKE!

artgod33
August 5th, 2008, 08:07 AM
Dude you just knocked me out... no need to keep slapping me in the back of the neck.

that sh!t stings!

Locklear
August 5th, 2008, 08:08 AM
"Now I shall have my way with you".

steph-style
August 5th, 2008, 08:16 AM
I wonder if you can really knock someone out with some "pressure points" or if it is more like a myth like the mind punch..

haterade
August 5th, 2008, 08:35 AM
all he did was hit him in both sides of the neck which would cut off blood to the brain for a moment.
it's a pretty effective way to get someone off you without too much risk of damage

Locklear
August 5th, 2008, 08:37 AM
all he did was hit him in both sides of the neck which would cut off blood to the brain for a moment.
it's a pretty effective way to get someone off you without too much risk of damage

If you can pinch both of those arteries in the neck, it takes about 8 seconds for someone to pass out.

fenrisnacht
August 5th, 2008, 08:40 AM
As an avid martial arts practitioner for over 20 years (some of it in the Far East), I can definitely tell you pressure point knockouts are complete garbage. But to truly prove the point, just watch MMA matches like UFC, WEC, EliteXC, IFL, etc. You will NEVER see anyone try a seemingly simple pressure point strike in a real fighting match because...well...it just doesn't work.

The really messed up part? I bet that student in the video truly believes it works. It's a simple mind-over-matter concept and along the same lines as why people in Jamaica believe in voodoo power or why hardcore religious types "fall down" during those TV evangelical "hands-on" sermons. They choose to believe (or as an outside observer would say, they choose to be delusional). If that student actually put himself in a true "attack mode" mind-set, he would shrug off the "pressure point strike" and keep attacking.

It amazes me that crap schools like this still exist and find zombies to follow them (and give up their money while doing so).

fenrisnacht
August 5th, 2008, 08:41 AM
If you can pinch both of those arteries in the neck, it takes about 8 seconds for someone to pass out.

Correct. But then it wouldn't be a strike anymore. It'd be a choke (which I'm sure you already know that).

Josh85
August 5th, 2008, 08:42 AM
I prefer using a knife to the neck repeatedly then decapitating then cannibalizing but that pressure point shit doesn't look too bad.

DC Thug
August 5th, 2008, 10:26 AM
fake or no, i'd rather not find out

i like my neck

no fool's gonna hit me without repercussions

PlaneswalkerX
August 5th, 2008, 10:38 AM
As an avid martial arts practitioner for over 20 years (some of it in the Far East), I can definitely tell you pressure point knockouts are complete garbage. But to truly prove the point, just watch MMA matches like UFC, WEC, EliteXC, IFL, etc. You will NEVER see anyone try a seemingly simple pressure point strike in a real fighting match because...well...it just doesn't work.

The really messed up part? I bet that student in the video truly believes it works. It's a simple mind-over-matter concept and along the same lines as why people in Jamaica believe in voodoo power or why hardcore religious types "fall down" during those TV evangelical "hands-on" sermons. They choose to believe (or as an outside observer would say, they choose to be delusional). If that student actually put himself in a true "attack mode" mind-set, he would shrug off the "pressure point strike" and keep attacking.

It amazes me that crap schools like this still exist and find zombies to follow them (and give up their money while doing so).

Thank you for not being a fool. And you're right, the student probably does actually believe in that shit. I wish that idiot would try to hit PlaneswalkerX with that bullshit. I'd thump his fucking skull for him. HAHAHAHA.

5degrees
August 5th, 2008, 11:12 AM
What a load of fucking tut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7meO4E1RW-8

The only true fighting form can be found at http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount_vantage/thefootfistway/

Firep0w3r
August 5th, 2008, 12:36 PM
Best done with a rope or a belt....

Unregistered
August 5th, 2008, 12:52 PM
I did a "pressure point knockout" on a person.


I hit them with my truck.

paulbrown49
August 5th, 2008, 01:39 PM
this has to be fake it takes seconds to stop the flow of blood to the brain,
unless he hit him harder than it looked.
and wouldn't someone of put him in the recovery position not kept hitting him!

Epyon_761
August 5th, 2008, 02:17 PM
"Now I shall have my way with you".

Yeah it sure looked like he was going to do that

brownbearclan
August 5th, 2008, 05:51 PM
Yeah, I still don't buy into this nonsense.

The best way to truly knock someone out is to hit their jaw just right and lights out!

haterade
August 5th, 2008, 09:08 PM
i agree pressure point knockouts are nonsense, but hitting someone on both sides of the neck like that is going to rock their world. i doubt that kid actually passed out so much as fell to the ground in blinding agony. even a slightly disruption to the flow of blood to the brain will make you woozy. i've been put in choke holds before and it instantly affected me and i'm a huge guy.

ROSSD
August 5th, 2008, 09:22 PM
Haven't you doubters seen Star Trek?? Mr Spock had a similar move, I think it was called the Vulcan neck pinch.:p Also in the recent movie You Don't Mess With the Zohan the Zohan does a pressure point knockout on that kid in the salon.......what more proof do you need?????:rolleyes2:

Unregistered
August 6th, 2008, 01:08 AM
This is called a Brachial Stun. It has nothing to do with cutting off bloodflow to the brain. The move earlier talked about is a Vascular Neck Restraint which cuts off veinous blood flow coming out of the brain causing someone to pass out in about five to eight seconds. This move demonstated is a stunning technique that allows you to do pretty much whatever you want on the guy for about five seconds at least. Martial Arts expert I am guessing is lying. Any five year old could easily do this move.

Unregistered
August 6th, 2008, 01:50 AM
there is a point where i pressure on girls that i make them cum instantly. but it has to be with the tip of my huge penis. fuck yeah!

Unregistered
August 6th, 2008, 02:07 AM
If you can pinch both of those arteries in the neck, it takes about 8 seconds for someone to pass out.

yeah but if you slam them like that they get crushed for a few secounds. and i wuna learn how to do it cuz that would kick ass

curator
August 6th, 2008, 02:09 AM
this is actually real, i saw Xena do something like this. *nods*

rubicks
August 6th, 2008, 02:44 AM
I prefer using a knife to the neck repeatedly then decapitating then cannibalizing but that pressure point shit doesn't look too bad.

Josh85,mate someone beat you to that method too

rubicks
August 6th, 2008, 03:58 AM
This is called a Brachial Stun. It has nothing to do with cutting off bloodflow to the brain. The move earlier talked about is a Vascular Neck Restraint which cuts off veinous blood flow coming out of the brain causing someone to pass out in about five to eight seconds. This move demonstated is a stunning technique that allows you to do pretty much whatever you want on the guy for about five seconds at least. Martial Arts expert I am guessing is lying. Any five year old could easily do this move.
sorry fail check your cardio vascular system brachial is not there(on my body it seems to be in my arm):thumb:

haterade
August 6th, 2008, 05:53 AM
"It has nothing to do with cutting off bloodflow to the brain"
sorry but knock outs happen in 2 ways
1. shock to the brain. i guess it could have been hard to make his head wobble but this video didn't look like it.
2. loss of blood flow.

if there is another option i've not considered i'm all ears, but please link to some proof and explain it.

5degrees
August 6th, 2008, 07:31 AM
Curiosity got the better of me and I had a quick look around the interweb and I am still convinced it is still bollocks.

You find references to US government/military handbooks talking about the brachial stun but I am still convinced it is shite. Anything that states:-

The Bronchial Stun (http://everything2.com/title/Bronchial%2520Stun), Throat Cut (http://everything2.com/title/Throat%2520Cut) is a technique described in the US Army combatives (http://everything2.com/title/combatives) handbook as mainly a tool for sentry removal (http://everything2.com/title/sentry%2520removal). One of the most striking things about this handbook was the paragraph describing how to approach a sentry - it is important not to stare at the enemy because he may sense the stalker's presence through a sixth sense (http://everything2.com/title/sixth%2520sense)...


Is in my book a load of old cock.


PS. Was introduced to a dog at the weekend whose owners had called 'Buzzman Cocknose' - how cool is that!:banana_sml:

Borro
August 6th, 2008, 08:48 AM
This has to be one of George Dillman's goons. I hate those motherfuckers.

fenrisnacht
August 6th, 2008, 09:17 AM
This has to be one of George Dillman's goons. I hate those motherfuckers.

You read my mind from earlier. I wasn't going to bring up that moron but...yeah, he's a total fake, too. First it was "Overweight American Ninjas from Alabama" and now Dillman's "Pressure Point Garbage".

As for the Unregistered slag who thinks this "brachial stun" move really works, I applaud your expertise. You obviously know more than the rest of us so we bow down to your wisdom. Just one question...how much money did you throw away---excuse me, wisely spend---learning this technique? Keep it up! :thumb:

Unregistered
August 6th, 2008, 03:45 PM
I actually got the training for free to do that exact thing dummy. I am barely 160 pounds and I have knocked out two different guys that were easily 200 pounds who probably didn't believe it worked either. It is a brachial stun and it short circuits your brain for a few seconds while you have your way with the guy. People that actually use this for a living (cops) will swear by it. You don't have a choice of losing a fight doing that job. I could also do a Vascular Neck restraint which appears to be a choke hold, but is actually cutting off the veinous pressure coming out of the brain causing you to pass out, but that is much harder to perform in the middle of a fight unless you are really good. I could teach an eight year old how to knock you out using this move in about five minutes time.

YourAfuckingMoron
August 6th, 2008, 04:01 PM
PRESSURE POINTS ARE TOTALLY REAL. THEY DON'T WORK BY CUTTING OFF CIRCULATION TO YOUR BRAIN. LIKE THE GUY ABOVE ME POSTED THEY CAN SHORT CIRCUIT YOUR BRAIN AND YOUR BODY MOMENTARILY PARALYZES. IT'S BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN. THE PRESSURE POINTS ARE WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF SENSITIVE NERVES AND WHEN THEY ARE HIT WITH ENOUGH FORCE THEY SEND SO MUCH SIGNAL TO THE BRAIN AND THROUGHOUT THE BODY THAT YOUR BRAIN JUST SHUTS DOWN FOR A MOMENT.

JooX
August 6th, 2008, 04:05 PM
Been hit often?

fenrisnacht
August 6th, 2008, 04:19 PM
I actually got the training for free to do that exact thing dummy. I am barely 160 pounds and I have knocked out two different guys that were easily 200 pounds who probably didn't believe it worked either. It is a brachial stun and it short circuits your brain for a few seconds while you have your way with the guy. People that actually use this for a living (cops) will swear by it. You don't have a choice of losing a fight doing that job. I could also do a Vascular Neck restraint which appears to be a choke hold, but is actually cutting off the veinous pressure coming out of the brain causing you to pass out, but that is much harder to perform in the middle of a fight unless you are really good. I could teach an eight year old how to knock you out using this move in about five minutes time.

Well, you know what they say...you get what you pay for. And that's the second time you've brought little kids into this conversation. Do us all a favor and stay away from public schools (grade schools cause you'll get yourself arrested; high schools cause you'll get your ass beat and lunch money taken). :thumb:

Buzzyorkyporky
August 6th, 2008, 05:51 PM
" Instructor demonstrates a Pressure Point Knockout"

For some reason that video was bizarre; I am thinking that the instructor decided to tape himself to prove once and for all that he was not fondling or blowing his students after he knocked them out...IMO:omg:

Barrog
August 7th, 2008, 08:38 AM
I have been in training in martial arts for over 10 years. In that time I have had a move alot like this one done to me by a Brazilian Jiu-jitsu master. With just a simple strike to the side of my neck and head my head went fuzzy for a second or two. Although I never passed out I wasnt hit very hard either. I can not say how effective it would be in a fight but it diffently does something.