So I told my best friend that..........

[verticalkiller]

if he was in danger that I would try to help, but I wouldn't die trying to help him if I knew neither of us would make it. He was so shocked that I would say something like that. Was he just being dramatic, I mean he is a flamboyant gay guy, or was I just being insensetive. I've been thinking about it all night since it happened, I don't know which one of us is right. Personally, i don't see the need for 2 people to die. Do you? Whatcha think?

[Vanguard]

FIGHT TOGETHER. DIE TOGETHER. WHITE POWER!

*Pumps fist into air*

Seriously thou, if he gets in trouble, do as much as you can for him... but if you die and he dies, then there was really no point

[Big Ozzie]

http://www.lottaliving.com/tvshow/PeeWeeHerman.jpgWELL, Sweety!Only a real man would lay down his life for his fellow man!

[crazyjoe]

A good friend will bail you out of jail if you got arrested. A true friend would be sitting next to you saying "damn we fucked up"

[kratos]

^ QFT!!!
Great comment crazyjoe

[Avaloner]

Well I don't know, actually I wouldn't die for anyone on this world, seriously noone deservs to fuck off my live too, maybe I will think the other way in a few months, but who knows.

Actually it depends really on the situation, when I couldn't rescue the other one or I tried everything logical, I wouldn't put my life at risk, atleast we all must die one day and fucking around with destenie wont help either, when your time is ending accept it, but don't let others risk their lifes for it. Its simply stupid, because the death is not the end, but on the other side you still could live while the other dies anyway, sounds cruel, but its my opinion.

[Evil Conservative]

if he was in danger that I would try to help, but I wouldn't die trying to help him if I knew neither of us would make it. He was so shocked that I would say something like that. Was he just being dramatic, I mean he is a flamboyant gay guy, or was I just being insensetive. I've been thinking about it all night since it happened, I don't know which one of us is right. Personally, i don't see the need for 2 people to die. Do you? Whatcha think?
I think your friend is emotionally and mentally unstable. :)
To die to save someone is admirable. To die trying to save someone when there is a hope of saving them is admirable. To die trying to save someone that would result in nothing but your own death itself is not admirable.
The only people I would die trying to save when there was probably no hope would be certain family members.

[Big Ozzie]

I can say in all honesty as I stand before my God....that I could,
and I would lay down my life to save my fellow man
should the situation dictate it.
No matter he be Friend or Stranger, Black or White, Yellow or Brown...
I know in my Heart, I would have no problem doing so..
...so help me GOD!

I also swear to you, before my God...that I could,
and I would take the life of my fellow man without hesitation,
should the situation dictate.
No matter he be Friend or Stranger, Black or White, Yellow or Brown...
I know this too in my heart I would have no problem doing so..
...so help me GOD!

[FXfighter]

i wound't help knowing he's gay

[Big Ozzie]

i wound't help knowing he's gay

TOO BAD! There have been a lot of great contibutions made by those in the Gay Community. It is a shame that you are so blind as to not see what you could possibly be missing out on.

[Evil Conservative]

i wound't help knowing he's gay

TOO BAD! There have been a lot of great contibutions made by those in the Gay Community. It is a shame that you are so blind as to not see what you could possibly be missing out on.
Yes like..giant dildo's and mass production of anal lube. :lol:
Seriously though just what HAS the "Gay Community" contributed to society? :)
And I might help a gay out of a bad situation if he didn't instigate it with his own overly flamboyant attitude, but I wouldn't die for one. That honor is reserved for family and CLOSE friends not that I wouldn't intercede in some random event on a whim.
What do you mean with that missing out on statement by the way? :? :o :shock: :)

[verticalkiller]

I don't mind dying for someone just not needlesly. By someone I mean someone I like, know and love. Im not just going to throw my life away though, not for anyone. Not if we're both going to die. Whats the point?

[Evil Conservative]

I don't mind dying for someone just not needlesly. By someone I mean someone I like, know and love. Im not just going to throw my life away though, not for anyone. Not if we're both going to die. Whats the point?
There is no point if you would both end up dead. People might write about your sacrifice and call you a hero...for dying in the pointless attempt, but you'd still be dead and it would still be pointless.

[Uh oh]

i wound't help knowing he's gay

TOO BAD! There have been a lot of great contibutions made by those in the Gay Community. It is a shame that you are so blind as to not see what you could possibly be missing out on.
Yes like..giant dildo's and mass production of anal lube. :lol:
Seriously though just what HAS the "Gay Community" contributed to society? :)
And I might help a gay out of a bad situation if he didn't instigate it with his own overly flamboyant attitude, but I wouldn't die for one. That honor is reserved for family and CLOSE friends not that I wouldn't intercede in some random event on a whim.
What do you mean with that missing out on statement by the way? :? :o :shock: :)
the term gay community suggests that the entire community contributes something to society. it is better to refer to only people from that community, the community being a community because we group the gays together into it. if you see what i'm trying to say.

ANYWAYS a good example would be our friend Alan Turing, a real founding father in computers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing

when it comes to risking my life for another, i'm willing to do it for anyone in trouble really. but i have to admit i'm kind of prejudiced towards gay people in general, so risking my life for them right now seems like it wouldn't be the best idea. it doesn't make sense but it's the social conditioning i've experienced from where i live. when i'm older i'll get over it i'm sure.

when it comes to killing (in semi-response to Big Ozzie's post) i'd only kill in war-time situations where the defence of my country is threatened. otherwise my philosophy is i'll beat the shit out of you.

[Big Ozzie]

UhOh claims that:
the term gay community suggests that the entire community contributes something to society. it is better to refer to only people from that community, the community being a community because we group the gays together into it. if you see what i'm trying to say.

In response to my statement where I said:
TOO BAD! There have been a lot of great contibutions made by those in the Gay Community. It is a shame that you are so blind as to not see what you could possibly be missing out on.

My statement reads "made by those in the Gay Community" not "made by the Gay Community". In fact it refers to individual contributions to society....not the contribution as a whole group.

[Commando80]

You never know, A gay man could ironically come up with the cure for HIV/AIDS!

[Tho-MliASTER]

Erm....WTF

[Commando80]

Its a long story lol.

[Uh oh]

UhOh claims that:
the term gay community suggests that the entire community contributes something to society. it is better to refer to only people from that community, the community being a community because we group the gays together into it. if you see what i'm trying to say.

In response to my statement where I said:
TOO BAD! There have been a lot of great contibutions made by those in the Gay Community. It is a shame that you are so blind as to not see what you could possibly be missing out on.

My statement reads "made by those in the Gay Community" not "made by the Gay Community". In fact it refers to individual contributions to society....not the contribution as a whole group.
my bad, i wasn't originally reffering to your post which specifically stated what i took a while to say, but in response to Conservative's "what has the gay community" statement. i should have bolded it.


Yes like..giant dildo's and mass production of anal lube. :lol:
Seriously though just what HAS the "Gay Community" contributed to society? :)
And I might help a gay out of a bad situation if he didn't instigate it with his own overly flamboyant attitude, but I wouldn't die for one. That honor is reserved for family and CLOSE friends not that I wouldn't intercede in some random event on a whim.
What do you mean with that missing out on statement by the way? :? :o :shock: :)

[That Dude]

A heroic, yet ultimately pointless death. That is what I hope for when the time comes.

[Tho-MliASTER]

haha I really dont have a clue what this is about, I'll just nod and smile :)

[cheese muffin]

I really think that this is one of the "What If" situations that will never happen. Tell a little white lie that you would die for him. and everything goes back to happiness. =D

[Skyhigh]

I would try to help as much as I could.........

[brownbearclan]

That's kind of a tough one. If you KNOW someone is fucked and that your only going to die as well trying to make a futile attempt at saving them, you would think your natural instinct of survival would keep you from getting yourself killed as well.

Then again if it was someone like my wife in a situation like that, I don't think I'd hesitate to go down with her.

In a situation like that though, it's impossible to say what anyone would do when adrenaline kicks in.

UhOh claims that:


In response to my statement where I said:


My statement reads "made by those in the Gay Community" not "made by the Gay Community". In fact it refers to individual contributions to society....not the contribution as a whole group.

Well even the people in the gay community who make small contributions to society shouldn't be dismissed either. Sure there are plenty of gay people who have made great contributions, but I have quite a few gay friends who do things a lot of normal people might not be able to handle such as 911 operators, paramedics, nurses, police etc. It takes all kinds to make the world go round. :)

[Jegar]

http://www.lottaliving.com/tvshow/PeeWeeHerman.jpg

Omg jokerman! :omg::omg:

[Jegar]

And i've also noticed that this thread was submitted fuckin last year! :omg:

[Borro]

And i've also noticed that this thread was submitted fuckin last year! :omg:

:1orglaugh: :1orglaugh: :1orglaugh:

[Skyhigh]

Hehe, I enjoy doing that for laughs sometimes. Go to the very last page and pick the post that's been there the longest then see who posts on a year old+ page. :omg:

[psycho_terror]

Hehe, I enjoy doing that for laughs sometimes. Go to the very last page and pick the post that's been there the longest then see who posts on a year old+ page. :omg:

you must be fun at parties :1orglaugh:

[Mukphly]

I was following a friend of mine in a car when he collided with a tractor trailer rig. He was in an older Chev P.U. that had the fuel tanks that split open in a accident. We had just filled the tank about ten miles prior. Anyhow he was a big guy and the dash pinned him in this burning truck. I was at his passenger door no more than 5 seconds after the wreck & I told him not to worry that I would get him out of there. I tried, got the scars on my hands & arms to prove it, but there was no way to get him out. (It took them cutting the roof off the truck , then hydraulically forcing the dash away from the seat to get him out.) I Watched & listened to a very good friend burn alive that day some 20 years ago, & I will NEVER forget that I did not make good on my promise to him.
That being said I did not stay in the truck when it started to really take off.

[MightyTiny]

I was following a friend of mine in a car when he collided with a tractor trailer rig. He was in an older Chev P.U. that had the fuel tanks that split open in a accident. We had just filled the tank about ten miles prior. Anyhow he was a big guy and the dash pinned him in this burning truck. I was at his passenger door no more than 5 seconds after the wreck & I told him not to worry that I would get him out of there. I tried, got the scars on my hands & arms to prove it, but there was no way to get him out. (It took them cutting the roof off the truck , then hydraulically forcing the dash away from the seat to get him out.) I Watched & listened to a very good friend burn alive that day some 20 years ago, & I will NEVER forget that I did not make good on my promise to him.
That being said I did not stay in the truck when it started to really take off.

That's a horrible experience. :(

I can see how something like that would stay with you and bother you a long time, but I hope that at least on an intellectual level, you know that there's nothing more you could have done - if he was pinned to a burning car, an needed tools you didn't have to extract him, there really was nothing to do there.

I'm sure that if your friend were to have been asked, as a hypothetical, before the accident, what he'd like you to do in case of such an accident, he would have said that the only thing would be for you to get out - no reason for you to get seriously injured or die when it couldn't possibly do him no good.

[MontysDouble]

A man once had a heart attack and died in my family's restaurant. The section the man's party was in had one other table occupied: We moved this party elsewhere. I stood polishing glasses. His friends were doing CPR, but it didn't help. By the time the ambulance arrived he was gone. The paramedics tried but failed to revive him, my father and I helped to carry him out. Then, his friend came to my father and offered to pay. My father refused, of course.

[Haseknumber39]

if he was in danger that I would try to help, but I wouldn't die trying to help him if I knew neither of us would make it. He was so shocked that I would say something like that. Was he just being dramatic, I mean he is a flamboyant gay guy, or was I just being insensetive. I've been thinking about it all night since it happened, I don't know which one of us is right. Personally, i don't see the need for 2 people to die. Do you? Whatcha think?

Well sorta off topic a bit

but when we do first aid in Cadets

where told if theres a possibility that we can get injured whilst trying to help them...dont help