Video - If he wasn't a Terrorist before his beating he proba

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Video - If he wasn't a Terrorist before his beating he probably is now

http://www.filecabi.net/video/1117062816.html

[Ers]

They could have taken him with much less violence!

[LoL]

He was probably at a terrorist meeting. Anyways I'm pretty sure theres more to that then just that part of them beating him.

[Ers]

Yea. I do not deny that he probably were a terorist. But I said that they could have taken him with much less violece!

I agree

[Grimmancer]

They might have been able to, but also don't forget we did not see what the guy did... he might have been a sniper that killed thier friend 5 mins before... when we only see a small part it is hard to really say what happened... i mean maybe he did nothing but was in the wrong place at the wrong time but I doupt that... but they are soilders not police they are not trained to put someone down softly... you are trained to go in take them down as hard and as fast as possible...
this sort of reminds me of that photo from vietnam where the American captian executes the man with one shot in the head... but what the press did not say - that the man was caught brutally raping and killing a young lady, putting his AK in her when he was done then firing it while the barrel was inside her... that of course was never mentioned until years later...

[Im a Teenage Moron]

Fucking Americans. Fuck ur coward soldiers.

[Grimmancer]

Fucking Americans. Fuck ur coward soldiers.

LOL you feel so strong about that... that you cant even show your face and you enter as a guest (typical... always hiding yourself) ... why don't you log in sit and stay awhile... tell me why me and my brothers are cowards...
The funny thing is... is that most of the terrorists attacks are against unarmed civilians... but we are the cowards... Iraq is lucky that we are Americans and not Russians, cause they give no quarter and if it was them instead of us, with our type of fire power... Iraq would just be a parking lot.
Americans are some of the bravest soldiers I have ever met and I have met many from many countries... but not only are they brave they are also some of the most compassionate... I and many of my brothers did not eat for 2 days because we gave our rations to Kuwait families that we found camped out in the desert hiding...
You can hate us you can call us scum, anti Allah pigs, call us whatever but don’t call us cowards, we are not the ones that hide behind masks and blow up innocent people, we are not the ones that hide in schools and behind children... (and I have been shot by Muslims hiding behind woman and children) you attack us then run into mosques, knowing that we won’t bomb it...(well not 100% true, I have had a hand at blowing one up) but for the most part we don’t...
We are not the cowards shit if we were would have just fucking bombed everything, killing everyone and not even set one foot inside Iraq until it was nothing but ruins and corpses... but because we care about the innocent people we risk our lives... that is not a cowardly act no matter what religion you are...

[sarge222]

Fucking Americans. Fuck ur coward soldiers.

Normally I delete or edit posts where someone attacks another as a "guest" that is not registered. But that was such a lame attempt at an attack that Im gonna leave it so we all can make fun of you! :lol:

[Grimmancer]

And yes when I say shot, I mean shot, not shot at... it passed through my calf ... had R&R, got to have icecream, and real beef! I got a month vaca for it... I would have thanked the guy that shot me but, he was long dead...

[Im a Teenage moron]

*Grow some balls and register before you go on an attack*

[Grimmancer]

Ok first off, if your gonna call me dumb, type it out not that ur, and u shit, if you want to insult me take the time and do it right, unless of course you just really can't spell you or your...
I do know what I am talking about, you fucking piece of shit, I was a US Marine for over 12 years, and most likely have seen much more of this planet then you ever will... I personally think that you are honestly just a kid trying to get his rocks off sprouting shit that you really have no fucking clue about, does your mommy and daddy even know that you are on the net?
OH and why don't you register? or do you feel safe behind that mask of yours, oh thats right your the brave one, the mighty one who knows that I am being manipulated... Did you even read what you said... basically you said that I am an idiot, you won't argue with me because I will beat you with experience... not that really makes any sort of real sence...but hey you said it not me...
and before I continue what is a turd of shit, a turd is shit so am I a shit of shit? that again does not make sence... I truly think that it is way past your bed time, if you want to argue, if you want to debate please come armed with a little intelligence...
Next time you post here, dont just do a fly by and sprout shit then run away, have the balls to stay and fight... but again you probably need to grow some hair on them first...

[Grimmancer]

And your damn right we are there to secure Israel... thats our base we have in the mideast, well not anymore, now we have Iraq, and Afghanistan... shit now we dont have to worry so much about the air space we need to get permission to fly over as we used to... We will have bases there for many many years... get used to it

[Another Us soldier.]

word.... thats all i can say. 1st infantry 2nd battalion 2nd reg..... VOLUNTEER participant of OIF2.
lemme ask you this. should thousands die so our country, the one that supports your every right to even still be breathing after spouting off such crap, have the oil money?
OR, should thousands (who have already died under a dictator) die so the oil money can go to an even more money hungry than an american, brutal/non-geneva/tyrant ???? im glad i helped the US secure what is now OUR (and your) future... aka.... oil, land, diplomacy........ fuck off idiot. no no, not idiot. Hippie.

and those soldier were special forces. so no shit they had some intell your overlooking. now your an idiot.

get a fucking job.

[Im a Teenage Moron]

*grow some balls and register before you go on an attack*

[Another Us soldier.]

your pretty dumb. you cant let 5-10 people be primary representatives for a group that spans into the millions. al-zarqawi beheads people, and iraqi soldiers raped jessica lynch. so by your ideals, now all jordanians and iraqis are stupid ass turd of shit. cool.
besides, what do you do for the world or for your country, or ANYthing that gives you the right to criticize? your probrably still in high school listening to anti-american music, and heard one of your idols say something in reguards to iraq in a negative fashion and have nothing better to do but recycle the ignorance.

[Im a teenage moron]

*Grow some balls and register before you go on an attack*

[Another Us soldier.]

nugh said, grow up. experience is the best teacher.
apparently, you have none. and maybe youve ignored our posts..... what part of soldier dont you understand. Im a combat medic. not working at the gap. st

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[Ers]

Grimmancer: Even if he were a sniper that killed one of their friends 5 minuits ago. Does more than 5 men have to hit and kick him, call him "motherfucker" and one man even stick him with a RIFLE just to get him under arest!?

[Grimmancer]

Emotions in combat run high my friend... If I had just lost a friend, they would be lucky that they only got a beating as he did... people who have never been in combat really have no clue what it is like, the emotions that run through... and again they are soldiers not police...
the guy was lucky to be alive and not just killed, a few kicks and shit I am sure he can take... plus I also heard them saying "stop resisting" to him... If he would have just laid down spread eagle it might have been advoided... not to mention he could have had a hidden weapon on him... I would rather be an ass and kick the crap out of him, not giving him a chance to get the weapon then risk my or my brother lives (and that has happened more than once)
It is a harsh world but it is a world that we must survive in...

Just ignore him, he's just an immature brat who doesn't know his butt from a hole in the ground. He's not worth getting upset over.

[Ers]

If a military has to take a prisoner like that, then it is a bad military! Hate against other people is a very bad thing! If he had a weapon or resisted, they could have pressed him to the ground instead of hiting and kicking him!

[Grimmancer]

I can see you have never been in any sort of combat... It is not about hate it is about survival. Until you are in the heat of combat you will never never never understand :) but I respect your views and in a perfect world I would agree with you but I am a realist and it really does not work like that... hell in a perfect world we would not need a military...

just be thankful that there are people like me to protect people like you :):) Enjoy your day! :)

[Ers]

Grimmancer: There is one thing that you have not understod! I WILL NEVER EVER BE IN THE HEAT OF COMBAT! It is stricktly against what I belive in!

[Grimmancer]

Oh I understand and I respect you for that, and if everyone in the world was like you it would be a better place but as long as there is hatred, bigotry, bullies, and evil be thankful that there are people like me to to defend people like you from all that. I do not hate, well yes I do... I hate people who bully others, I hate people that try to silence freedom, I hate people who attack the weak, I hate people who find emusment in anothers pain...

[Ers]

I do not belive that a military is defending me. I think that if you bomb a country to "protect" your "own" people, then the bombed country will hate you even more!

[game_freak99]

Wow! thats all i can say after reading this page

[Combat Medic]

no, your right ers. A military isnt defending you. MANY militaries are defending you. not to mention, if it wasnt for the US and UK you would be speaking german right now.

However i will agree as well, that it is sad that there has to be militaries around the world doing what they do.

But yes, one of my best friends was killed right in front of me by a grenade that was in a coat pocket of an iraqi that resisted to the point that he was able to pull the pin. and ive never seen an innocent iraqi resist arrest. so, what do you suppose we do when someone with assault rifles, grenades, homade bombs, grenades and much more resists an arrest? what would any cop in the world do? beat him into submission. it isnt about fun. its survival. bottom line.

[Ers]

"so, what do you suppose we do when someone with assault rifles, grenades, homade bombs, grenades and much more resists an arrest?"

As I already said press him to the ground but pleas do not hit and kick him!

"not to mention, if it wasnt for the US and UK you would be speaking german right now."

I do not care what languages I am speaking as long as we do not make diference between people. That is why I am against religion, culture and countrys. Those things separates humans and causes war. Everyone should speak the same languages.

Excuse my english.

[Eternal]

photo from vietnam where the American captian executes the man with one shot in the head... but what the press did not say - that the man was caught brutally raping and killing a young lady, putting his AK in her when he was done then firing it while the barrel was inside her... that of course was never mentioned until years later...



That was Vietnam's police chief that did that....

http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0410/faas.html

[Eternal]

Oh and those are iraqi soldiers that are doing the beating. Since when do American soldiers speak fluent arabic? Come on now guys, use that gray matter in your heads.

[Overlord]

I guess the soldiers should've had said please and thank you after pinning his ass down. LOL

[Grimmancer]

Oh and those are iraqi soldiers that are doing the beating. Since when do American soldiers speak fluent arabic? Come on now guys, use that gray matter in your heads.
Yes there were first taken by Iraqi Police, but in the end you can hear and see two American Marines there also.
And we aint no police force, as I said that guy is lucky he is not dead...

[s]

it wasnt the americans that were beatin him it was de irapis that were with de americans

[Red/Yellow]

I am a different person than him (you can check by my previous post) however people outside of america can feel threatened by their military activity. In fact a lot of people blame america for terrorism attacks ( I am not saying that I do, or that the Al Qaeda's change to western targets is even their fault) that target westeners. He may be blinded by rage for one reason or another .... however I won't get in to that.

For example my friend was holidaying in bali at the time of the recent bomb blasts. They heard it as the restaurant that was literally blown up was only 2 blocks away from them. Yes, I am Australian, and I do kind of feel insecure when Al Qaeda threaten Australia (plans aswell as stockpiled bomb making material, similar to the ones used in the bombs that blew up in london) and stating that it is because of our cooperation with the Americans. Really, you should see past his words, maybe you will notice that he is trying to get another point across that he probably doesnt even mean.

[Overlord]

Grimmancer: There is one thing that you have not understod! I WILL NEVER EVER BE IN THE HEAT OF COMBAT! It is stricktly against what I belive in!

If you were over there and fighting for you life while suicide bombers, land mines, and snipers were your enemies... and some guy is resisting you or fighting you... you're not hating him. You are 100% adrenaline. You want to get home. You want to survive the encounter. And when you have people that would pull a grenade on you or something like that, you would beat him within an inch of his life if he disobeyed you.

This isn't a paddycake game and everyone's calling other people names. This is war and you don't take chances. If you do, then you're dead.

[Ers]

Overlord! You have not understod what I'm saying! I will never join the army unless I get a non violence part in the army. And that means that I will never stand in the heat of compat with a man at my feet (that have killed my friend) and a gun in my hand. NEVER!

[Grimmancer]

then go Navy or Airforce, much better chance of never being in the thick of things, Not saying that they never are in the heat, the SEALS are one force I would never want to mess with, and downed pilots are not only in the thick but will have a hoard ofpeople looking for them but just more jobs in those two branches where you wont be in the thick of things, Though it will never be 100% guaranteed... you never know... but too you are from Sweeden and I don't know what they offer in their military. But the military is a good way to start a good life and become a man

[andrexote]

OK LETS SEE......

if my mom, dad or sum part of my family got injured or died in 9/11

fukin hell u bet i would be in irak rite now!

if sum terrorist behind from childrens and womans shoots me...

fukin hell u bet i kill that guy aniways(even if its hard to say it...even more to do it)

if i see a citizen near the spot it was a terrorist

u bet i would shot him, or left him less injured....but hey its their or me!

i dun blame soldier to kill irak citizens....well just sum of them n u probably knoe the reasons

who i blame for all this crap are the guys behind bush not bush....bush is a fuking idiot, a puppet
but they guys behind him i blame them for all the shit they made from world

with all the money america spends on guns, they could save hunger in africa for 8 years...i just dont get wars....religions n patriotism, they are all the same shit, we only have 1 god, can be allah can be buda i dun fuking knoe...all i knoe its that i pray just for 1. n i dun crash a plane to buildings for go to heaven

[andrexote]

grimmancer im sorry to said this but the military isnt the best way to become a man

i knoe u would say i dun fuking knoe a shit...and u r right but all smartheads since 1800 had say that....military is the doubt of the nations to be harm for other nations

n thats wut we less need

[Grimmancer]

grimmancer im sorry to said this but the military isnt the best way to become a man

i knoe u would say i dun fuking knoe a shit...and u r right but all smartheads since 1800 had say that....military is the doubt of the nations to be harm for other nations

n thats wut we less need
I did not say it was the best, I said it was a good way, there are many paths one can choose, some better than others it all depends on who the person is. I have talked to Ers, and he wants to join, but not knowing what branch or what field.

[Jack Daniels]

Oww gawd the amount brainwashed drible that comes out of americans sometimes. Who ever gave you the right to police the world.

The whole reason for going into Iraq was based on lies and fabrication. I remeber so clearly Colin Powell's speach to UN with his "proof". After watching the entire thing all I could think was...Was this all the evidence the most powerfull intelligence agencies in the world could muster? Sketches of tank trucks, empty parking lots and wheel tracks in the dessert. You would have to be pretty dumb to find any value in that. He himself have later expressed that it was one the days in his life he most regretted.

Now! after that the military and ass. specialists didn't find any weapons of mass destruction it's suddenly a humanitarian mission, to relieve the poor Iraqies of Sadam. American in general don't give a rat's ass about the people of Iraq, much less your goverment. My guess was that someone had to pay for 9/11 and Iraq had been beaten last time and surdenly wouldn't me much of a problem....that or the oil...take your pick.

As terrible as 9/11 was (and that was about as fucked up as it gets), it's not much better bombing the living day light out of a people that have seen nothing but misery the last decade...all those "smart bombs" that fall en Iraq can't tell if it's a 2 year old daughter of camel jockey or an Baath party member.

Another thing all those people that have suffered unfair losses in in Iraq at the hands of us army, have just as much reason to want revenge as you guy's have 9/11...so that would pretty much mean they are withing their right to attack americans?

As for the video...that's nothing, I agree he was lucky and sometimes it is actually recommended to be that aggresive and not give the a chance to think and react. Tempers flare and adrenalin rush...IF he was a "freedom fighter" the would have done much worse to an american or new iraqi soldier.

I pitty the poor bastards of assorted armies in iraq, that has to pound the dirt every day...hope they all make it home safely...and that western alliance pulls out iraq before it turns into another vietnam.

From a sergant that has been in a warzone for the UN peacekeepers.

Jack (no ofcourse not my real name)

[Overlord]

Overlord! You have not understod what I'm saying! I will never join the army unless I get a non violence part in the army. And that means that I will never stand in the heat of compat with a man at my feet (that have killed my friend) and a gun in my hand. NEVER!

Sometimes the war comes to you. You don't always have the luxury of the choice whether or not to fight.

[andrexote]

its not only about oil.....and jack, there are lots of types of religion in Irak americans want to set free the curds, the kind of religion(or sect) that leaves woman to be free same as children

in the other hand religions that i dun remember the name by the way:P , kill their womans if the let them see their face, use children as workes n pray to allah wishing death for not allah believers

true, america wants oil
false, america wants to destroy all Irak for no reason
true, america is helping curds
false, soldiers are not killer machines

[mudshark82]

those soldiers coulda been the bigger men. they werent. they acted like thugs. thats pretty much the bottom line. they needed to take this guy into custody and they used more force than they had to. im an american and these videos make it hard for me to be proud of what we're doing there. just look at the news about guantanamo bay inmates. most are innocent and the way theyve been treated like dogs there, if we ever let them out they surely will become terrorists.

[frankman]

this sort of reminds me of that photo from vietnam where the American captian executes the man with one shot in the head... but what the press did not say - that the man was caught brutally raping and killing a young lady, putting his AK in her when he was done then firing it while the barrel was inside her... that of course was never mentioned until years later...

Do you have cite for that ?

This reminds me of the runup to the first gulf war, when they claimed Iraquis where taking babies out of their incubators and laying them on the floor. It was later shown to be a completely fabricated piece of propaganda.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p25s02-cogn.html

[Ers]

” Sometimes the war comes to you. You don't always have the luxury of the choice whether or not to fight”

My war is a diplomatic war. I fight before a real war breaks out. And even under a real war the only real way out is political. Or if the war should come to me even with Swedens good diplomatic work I would only help out WITHOUT weapons so that they I will NEVER stand in the heat of compat with a gun in my hand! If they try to force a gun on me I will desert.

“soldiers are not killer machines”

Then WTF is a soldier!?

“just look at the news about guantanamo bay inmates. most are innocent and the way theyve been treated like dogs there, if we ever let them out they surely will become terrorists”

Absolutley!

[Overlord]

” Sometimes the war comes to you. You don't always have the luxury of the choice whether or not to fight”

My war is a diplomatic war. I fight before a real war breaks out. And even under a real war the only real way out is political. Or if the war should come to me even with Swedens good diplomatic work I would only help out WITHOUT weapons so that they I will NEVER stand in the heat of compat with a gun in my hand! If they try to force a gun on me I will desert.

I meant that if you wouldn't fight then they would just kill you and your family.

That's why we have things like this video. Some terrorist piece of crap kills a lot of innocent people either in the US (9/11) or the UK (london bombings) and for example if my parents or friends had died in the world trade center then I would've signed up to fight in Iraq. And when I got there I would be really, really pissed off. And if someone got out of line, I'd give them the beating of their life. This is war. That's what it means. Not "diplomatic war" or "war against the fungus growing in your toilet. I mean man on man, kill or be killed war. no rules. no bs.

[Snuff.]

If someone i knew died in 9/11...This is war. That's what it means. Not "diplomatic war" or "war against the fungus growing in your toilet. I mean man on man, kill or be killed war. no rules. no bs.

that's what pisses me off, how so many americans seem to justify their countries' geopolitical machinations by citing 9/11 or the "war on terror".

so what is terror and how the fuck do you wage war on it? terrorism is not an entity. if anything it's an ideology, and ideologies are notriously difficult to wage war upon.

the first page of this thread is fucking sound. i'm not gonna pretend i like what has been said but i know it's the truth. nescessary evils, and all that.

what i am afraid of is that the relevance and influence of an international democratic community is being subjugated by an internalised reactionary propagandist atittude to geopolitics.

[Overlord]

the first page of this thread is fucking sound.

Thanks for giving us such a "sound" opinion and if you want to quote me do the whole thing. I'm glad the term "war on terror" is too confusing for you to understand. I wouldn't want your head to explode trying to figure out how a revenge killing works in your macro-geopolitical bullshit world. Maybe oneday we will all transcend our simple biological thinking and enter a green haze like the fart blossom you just broadcasted and we'll fight wars using mathmatical abstracts but the truth is that a lot of Americans got pissed off at losing family members and those same people are in Iraq right now with a big chip on their shoulder. And you're looking into your geopolitical navel trying to figure out why some people do mean things to another in war which is frankly pretty naive.

[Cockknocker]

We will always find a way to justify our own actions as Americans no matter what. Basically we do what we want. When our troops rape women, its because they're prostitutes, they deserve it right? When they beat and torture women and children, its because they brought it on themselves right? Of course because we are the 'good guys.' Its our job to run everything, to have complete control. We shouldnt have been attacked and lose many innocent lives, but dont get me wrong, what we've done to other countries is 1000 times worse. We do what we do out of fear.

[Ers]

Overlord: Have you tried to be nice to someone that did a stupid thing to you. Invite him for dinner or something. You will understand that if you are nice to someone they will feel safe with you and be nice to you.

For exampel: If we (you) had not forced Germany to pay us (you) so much money after world war one then Hitler wouldn't have been able to root his opinions in Germany and world war two wouldn't happen.

[Overlord]

Overlord: Have you tried to be nice to someone that did a stupid thing to you. Invite him for dinner or something. You will understand that if you are nice to someone they will feel safe with you and be nice to you.

For exampel: If we (you) had not forced Germany to pay us (you) so much money after world war one then Hitler wouldn't have been able to root his opinions in Germany and world war two wouldn't happen.

^^_snufftelect_^^ I think she called you Himmler in there somewhere and I had only been nicer to you then the Holocaust would never have happened! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ers I don't think pretty please and thank you is changing any opinions here.

[Overlord]

We will always find a way to justify our own actions as Americans no matter what. Basically we do what we want. When our troops rape women, its because they're prostitutes, they deserve it right? When they beat and torture women and children, its because they brought it on themselves right? Of course because we are the 'good guys.' Its our job to run everything, to have complete control. We shouldnt have been attacked and lose many innocent lives, but dont get me wrong, what we've done to other countries is 1000 times worse. We do what we do out of fear.

When are we justifying rape for our soldiers overseas? We send them to military prison! We're not randomly going door to door beating women and children! No one said we were the "good guys" we're the 'guys' that are doing something about it.

Everything done in the world is driven out of fear or greed. What caused 9/11? The love of Al Queda for Allah? No fear of their own changing cultures. What caused the war in Iraq? Fear of the UN not enforcing their own restrictions on an independent nation under a timetable of our choosing. It's all fear.

How about the Fear those soldiers feel when rocks hit them in the face and they're terrified that they're actually bullets because they're in a war zone. Here's a better question: where is the fear these stupid kids should have about throwing a rock at a man carrying an assult rifle?

No beat their asses and let them Fear our response. They can vote all they want and elect who they want, but they can't riot like a bunch of monkeys when a freaking cartoon comes out in another country's newspaper.

If you had rioted in LA and throw rocks at the police, you would've got your ass beaten too.

[Vanguard]

Everyone considers the americans the good guys and everyone there up against the evil tyrant villians. Is a cliche that has developed over time

[Overlord]

Everyone considers the americans the good guys and everyone there up against the evil tyrant villians. Is a cliche that has developed over time

I don't so I guess you can't say "everyone" anymore.

[Cheb]

We will always find a way to justify our own actions as Americans no matter what. Basically we do what we want. When our troops rape women, its because they're prostitutes, they deserve it right? When they beat and torture women and children, its because they brought it on themselves right? Of course because we are the 'good guys.' Its our job to run everything, to have complete control. We shouldnt have been attacked and lose many innocent lives, but dont get me wrong, what we've done to other countries is 1000 times worse. We do what we do out of fear.

When are we justifying rape for our soldiers overseas? We send them to military prison! We're not randomly going door to door beating women and children! No one said we were the "good guys" we're the 'guys' that are doing something about it.

Everything done in the world is driven out of fear or greed. What caused 9/11? The love of Al Queda for Allah? No fear of their own changing cultures. What caused the war in Iraq? Fear of the UN not enforcing their own restrictions on an independent nation under a timetable of our choosing. It's all fear.

How about the Fear those soldiers feel when rocks hit them in the face and they're terrified that they're actually bullets because they're in a war zone. Here's a better question: where is the fear these stupid kids should have about throwing a rock at a man carrying an assult rifle?

No beat their asses and let them Fear our response. They can vote all they want and elect who they want, but they can't riot like a bunch of monkeys when a freaking cartoon comes out in another country's newspaper.

If you had rioted in LA and throw rocks at the police, you would've got your ass beaten too.

Actually fear is more of an excuse than a reason. Money on the other hand is a reason. I know this reason is getting old but do we change our opinion simply because it is getting old?
In fact, even 9/11 happened because of money. Yes it is as simple as that.

[blippy]

"so, what do you suppose we do when someone with assault rifles, grenades, homade bombs, grenades and much more resists an arrest?"

As I already said press him to the ground but pleas do not hit and kick him!

"not to mention, if it wasnt for the US and UK you would be speaking german right now."

I do not care what languages I am speaking as long as we do not make diference between people. That is why I am against religion, culture and countrys. Those things separates humans and causes war. Everyone should speak the same languages.

Excuse my english.
You my friend, must live in an Utopian society. Emotions clearly run high in any war and if you're telling me you wouldn't act the same way as these soldiers did if you saw your best friend get his head blown off by a sniper, you must be out of it. Put yourself in the same situation and I'm sure your views would change.

You are against religion, culture and countries? True, I agree that these things seperate humans and often they do cause war, but this is just inevitable. You're talking like a communist and I think we all know by now that (as great as a TRUE communist society sounds) communism just does not work because true communism cannot ever be truly implemented. Wake up and open your eyes.

[blippy]

” Sometimes the war comes to you. You don't always have the luxury of the choice whether or not to fight”

My war is a diplomatic war. I fight before a real war breaks out. And even under a real war the only real way out is political. Or if the war should come to me even with Swedens good diplomatic work I would only help out WITHOUT weapons so that they I will NEVER stand in the heat of compat with a gun in my hand! If they try to force a gun on me I will desert.


Diplomatic action only becomes a solution when both sides are willing to take upon a diplomatic action.

[Overlord]

In fact, even 9/11 happened because of money. Yes it is as simple as that.

explain?

[That Dude]

In fact, even 9/11 happened because of money. Yes it is as simple as that.

explain?

The only way I can think of myself is an attempt to cut an "achilles' heel" of sorts by hitting a major economic center.

[Cheb]

Well do you not think that people would do a lot for 167 billion dollars?
I watched the loose change video and it is hard to deny much of the information mentioned. What can I say. This is my opinion, I am sure many have different ones but money can do a lot. War in Iraq, well when the numbers go into the trillions then there is no telling what someone would do to get their hands on that.
Hails do you believe that the government and parlement shares everything with the people?
I really doubt it.

[meatlogo]

God bless our military , and why is this video even titled this?

[Merk]

Kindness begats kindness, What comes around goes around, and life is only as good as you can let! The funny thing is i'm for both sides. I'm inconclusive. Yeah we needed to do something after 9-11, yet the plan was had so many loop holes an inconclusive intelligence. we could of done something alot different to get a grip on terrorism than to go to war with this country and that... We have been at war with some country around the world ever since World War two. We sell all these weapons to these countries and then they go civil war or genocide. Maybe its some inside joke for population control. There is one thing i heard from a navy seal a year ago before the hurricanes in the south. He told me he heard from a friend that went to Biloxi mississippi, and for as far as the eye could see, there were U.N. vehicles prepped out for the U.S.A.! Hmmm! Dunno.. he also saw pictures of holding camps of three circles in the center of the country! makes you wonder. To the troops, well i too would rather be there ,seeing i can't seem to get any respect here in the states and everyone always walks around all pissed of and shit. On the news these days it like just when you think you've heard the craziest thing; the next day it's something worse! It's just that i had one of the worst step fathers that was a drill srgt. in the air force and communications, so i neede some kind of break from getting screamed at everyday of my god forsaken life,a nd took a few years off before i dicede to get in.!!Adios

[DriZ]

'daily on dutch television' lol

[steppman2]

'daily on dutch television' lol
Necro!

[Studnutz1]

All I have to say is from the video the Americans did hardly any of the beating...the only time they hit the guy is when he wouldn't put his head down and when he wouldn't give them his arm. They were also telling him to stop resisting. One of the American soldiers even stopped an Iraqi from hittin the guy with a gun, also he was yelling "hey hey hey" at an Iraqi that was kicking the man. I honestly see nothing wrong with what the Americans did, if anyone is going to bitch about the violence it was the Iraqi police or soldiers who were doing it. The American soldiers better not be punished for anything because they were not the ones taking the cheap shots, they only used force when he wouldn't comply. If you took out the Iraqi police this video wouldn't of even made the web or news.

[Fleet06]

That was not even a good ass kickin.
Police in Iraq need to learn to stomp there ass if they do not comply. Down on the ground or BANG!
And the Americans did not even get in any good licks. Iraqi Police did most of them.
Listen to the Video there are no Americans til the very very end. Edit the tape to the Americans and you won't have a few seconds worth.
I have been around the world, Sweden is a land of pussies! Sweden is afraid of Norway. LOL

[Josh85]

uhh.. what was wrong with that?

A million times worse shit happens every day on the streets.. yet a few soldiers and iraqi police manhandle a suspect/terrorist whilst arresting them in a fucking WAR situation and somehow it's shocking?

Fuck sake. Fucking media. Fucking hippies.